tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post3289465578973698154..comments2024-03-27T13:09:13.855+05:30Comments on Life in IISc: Selection committeeGiri@iischttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11819278945207995261noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-53959655963799256902010-01-11T11:45:53.987+05:302010-01-11T11:45:53.987+05:30It is in the annual report and budget papers that ...It is in the annual report and budget papers that are given to all senate members of IISc. It is not online.Giri@iischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11819278945207995261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-17378920232960634502010-01-11T11:02:32.150+05:302010-01-11T11:02:32.150+05:30OK. Would you please give me link showing these fi...OK. Would you please give me link showing these figures? I am right now browsing IISc website, but not able to locate these figures.Dr. D.R.Kaushalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13500542818471626553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-27511995260672390212010-01-11T10:43:50.393+05:302010-01-11T10:43:50.393+05:30No, the financial year of 2007-2008.No, the financial year of 2007-2008.Giri@iischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11819278945207995261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-40750324342264636902010-01-11T10:29:37.028+05:302010-01-11T10:29:37.028+05:30Dear Prof. Madras,
Are you talking about financia...Dear Prof. Madras,<br /><br />Are you talking about financial year 2008-09?Dr. D.R.Kaushalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13500542818471626553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-14894859515430290882010-01-11T09:43:31.321+05:302010-01-11T09:43:31.321+05:30IISc does have a large amount of industrial funded...IISc does have a large amount of industrial funded projects and consultancy projects. In fact, it is more than 30 crores. Our government funded projects are more than 150 crores.<br /><br />In top universities of US, the industry funded projects is roughly 20% of the total funded projects. So is the case here.<br /><br />Regarding publications, I have to state that many of us have a lot of industry funded projects as well as government funded projects. The latter projects results in publications while the former is more applied and useful to the industry. <br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />GiridharGiri@iischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11819278945207995261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-44268574472565833252010-01-11T08:02:51.190+05:302010-01-11T08:02:51.190+05:30Kaushalji:
IISc has more number of funded project...Kaushalji:<br /><br />IISc has more number of funded projects both industrial and consultancy. Only thing it has less compared to IIT Delhi is the number of faculty. Many IIT Delhi faculty spend time talking or having blogs about salaries and unfair promotions. IISc faculty do either basic or applied research and have useful blogs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-53988004933354704572010-01-11T00:52:01.086+05:302010-01-11T00:52:01.086+05:30Sometime last year I read in NY Times something li...Sometime last year I read in NY Times something like "there is no science that it is not applied".<br /><br />It is possible to do applied and basic research and publish in first level journals, but it is very hard.<br /><br />However, it requires a tremendous effort from students, posdocs, supervisors AND the sponsors (from the PI to the company's president).<br /><br />I know a PI from a MNC that last year published many papers including JACS, PNAS, and Science. In fact, his managers need to continuously see good publications as result of his work to continue supporting his research.<br /><br />M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-59774390382896427862010-01-10T22:32:11.945+05:302010-01-10T22:32:11.945+05:30It is interesting to see that in IITD, total spons...It is interesting to see that in IITD, total sponsored research projects and consultancy jobs during financial year 2008-09 is 93.1 Crores. Out of which, Consultancy jobs amount 18.56 Crores:<br /><br />http://web.iitd.ac.in/~ird/statistic.html<br /><br />During my recent interactions with industries worldwide in my field of specialization, I came to know that most of the academic research going on currently in my field has very little industrial significance. By saying so, I am not undermining the importance of research publications. I know very well the amount of work required to publish in International Journals of repute. However, the need of hour is to do research having industrial significance. If we do so, there is no derth of industrialists in our country to opt for advanced technologies developed by us. IITD statistics is an indication.Dr. D.R.Kaushalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13500542818471626553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-36053428463469769942010-01-10T20:16:59.830+05:302010-01-10T20:16:59.830+05:30Dear non-publishing community,
Please accept my s...Dear non-publishing community,<br /><br />Please accept my sincere congratulations on keeping your spirits high for non-publishing. You may not be aware but your commitment towards non-publishing has drastically uplifted the standard of your research automatically. It also has also dug a grave for the level of research of those poor publishers. Suddenly, their work in respectable journals (if something like "respectable" exists for journals in your dictionary) has become a nonsense or "bullshit" if I you permit me to use your language. I am sure, the speech by Prof Venkatraman Ramakrishnan has stuffed you with a new zeal towards maintaining your standards high and the first step that you need to take is to make this non-publishing movement rigorous. Declaring "Nature" or "Science" publication with the above certificate perhaps can be a good point to start with. But I am sorry, I forgot. I probably do not hold the qualification to suggest you regarding this. I can only wish that your disregards for publications increase exponentially day by day,<br /><br />Sincerely,<br />An unfortunate fairly publishing studentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-62516258233953288342010-01-10T19:31:53.090+05:302010-01-10T19:31:53.090+05:30Dear Sir,
I completely agree with M and posting na...Dear Sir,<br />I completely agree with M and posting nasty replies in your blog clearly shows the mental and educational background of those. I further believe that not having a scrutiny of such posts increases your greatness and their comments in no way undermine you.<br /><br />Regarding 40 papers by Sanger and all, its again a pitiable mentality of these people. By publishing thousands of papers, one may not become great. But surely, those not publishing anything are no greater. Putting Sanger's example over and again merely shows their frustration and lack of ability to get the message. I can always say that I can talk German but I won't. Who cares? By saying such things they can satisfy themselves, but the fact that the sort of pain it takes to publish can not be imagined by those know nothing but simply sitting and commenting on the publication, even without having a look on the papers. To such people, I would say first publish at least 40 papers and then say something.<br /><br />Since Prof Madras does not like the comment to be posted as anon, I will give some abstract initial :)ASDFnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-84270227536255092282010-01-10T17:32:08.451+05:302010-01-10T17:32:08.451+05:30No, I can not give the expenses while living in II...No, I can not give the expenses while living in IISc. This depends on lifestyle. For example, if you send your children to the KV school on campus, it will cost you less than Rs 1000 per year. International schools charge you 1000 per day.<br /><br />Regarding health coverage, please see the new website under pay.<br /><br />Regarding selection committee, please see the new website under recruitment.Giri@iischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11819278945207995261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-15745577238281888432010-01-10T17:01:39.816+05:302010-01-10T17:01:39.816+05:30Dear Prof. Giri,
What is the typical composition o...Dear Prof. Giri,<br />What is the typical composition of the selection committee? <br />How is fairness ensured? If most of the selection committee does not even meet the candidate in person how can the assessment be just?<br />In UK and US in most premier institutions it is mandatory for the selection committee to interview the candidates just like it is done for M.Tech and Ph.D students in India.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-75736159027532034092010-01-10T16:29:33.704+05:302010-01-10T16:29:33.704+05:30An off-the-topic question. Could you please provid...An off-the-topic question. Could you please provide some info regarding the general expenses while living in IISc? How good is the 'comprehensive health plan' provided by the IISc? Does it cover all treatments?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-58131898064031525982010-01-09T16:50:24.278+05:302010-01-09T16:50:24.278+05:30"If so then if the selection comm. selects so..."If so then if the selection comm. selects someone in mid january then will it take 3 months after that to issue an offer letter."<br /><br />Yes, the council meets only every three months. All appointments should be approved by the council, though the approval is a mere formalityGiri@iischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11819278945207995261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-82921475950844509882010-01-09T16:16:19.670+05:302010-01-09T16:16:19.670+05:30Prof. Giri,
I am little confused. The dept. Chair...Prof. Giri,<br /><br />I am little confused. The dept. Chair where I applied told me that the selection comm. meeting will be held middle of January, 2010. I applied around July-august timeframe. Now from you it seems meeting was held on 28th December. <br />Are these two different. If so then if the selection comm. selects someone in mid january then will it take 3 months after that to issue an offer letter.<br /><br />ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-52213856064447471022010-01-09T15:15:10.676+05:302010-01-09T15:15:10.676+05:30Anon at 1.12 pm:
It was a happy ending but the ca...Anon at 1.12 pm:<br /><br />It was a happy ending but the candidate did suffer mentally during the few months he was out of job.<br /><br />Anon at 3.02 pm:<br /><br />Thanks. The council meeting which finalizes the selection committee's decision to select faculty was held on December 28, 2009. The next meeting will be held 3 months later. Please check with the chairman of the department.Giri@iischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11819278945207995261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-16146336592196180602010-01-09T15:02:01.494+05:302010-01-09T15:02:01.494+05:30Dear Prof. giri,
I echo the sentiments of Lavanya...Dear Prof. giri, <br />I echo the sentiments of Lavanya. In the absence of information on institute websites in India about the faculty hiring procedure stages and the administrative constraints associated with it, your posts are like a manna from heaven!<br />If it is possible for you to answer, I would be very grateful if you could let me know when the next IISc gen council meeting where they finalize faculty selections will be held. I had applied for a faculty position in August last year at IISc, gave a talk etc..I understand that there was supposed to be a council meeting in December but am not sure if it took place and if postponed then when the new dates may be..<br />The time frame for decision making would be most helpful as I have some other faculty offers within Indian and in UK but would take IISc if selected.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-33130440917044026452010-01-09T13:12:41.904+05:302010-01-09T13:12:41.904+05:30wowww.. happy ending.. like climax of most of the ...wowww.. happy ending.. like climax of most of the bollywood movies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-70362694963965778802010-01-09T09:14:56.765+05:302010-01-09T09:14:56.765+05:30Well, the postdoc advisor wanted an one year commi...Well, the postdoc advisor wanted an one year commitment. Because he thought he had already got this job, he resigned the postdoc position and came back only to find he did not have this job either. Everything worked out a few months later as he got a job in some other IIT.Giri@iischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11819278945207995261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-48881156989543727002010-01-09T09:11:37.576+05:302010-01-09T09:11:37.576+05:30Prof. Madras,
Is it not that the letter to candid...Prof. Madras,<br /><br />Is it not that the letter to candidates are issued within 1 month after selection comm. interview. This post doc must be very over zealous to resign and come back to India within this 1 month period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-60277106115109549652010-01-09T08:30:29.437+05:302010-01-09T08:30:29.437+05:30Lavanya, thanks. IISc is a great place to work.
...Lavanya, thanks. IISc is a great place to work. <br /><br />Last anon: All my blog posts do not need to have a message for readers. It is my personal views and experiences. However, since you asked, I have to tell you that I know of a person who suffered because of the above. He gave the interview in IIT-M and was informed he was selected. He resigned his postdoc position and came back. But the court stayed the appointments and he did not have a written letter. So, the message is do not resign your current position till you get the new offer in writing. Well, this may look obvious. Sometimes we miss the obvious if we are excited.<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />GiridharGiri@iischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11819278945207995261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-71808812960846004502010-01-09T08:09:36.286+05:302010-01-09T08:09:36.286+05:30So, what is your message?So, what is your message?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-45669500733190637122010-01-08T09:11:50.838+05:302010-01-08T09:11:50.838+05:30How can university jobs be well sought, as claimed...How can university jobs be well sought, as claimed by Rainbow?<br /><br />I believe that all those jobs are third rate. IITs are not able to fill their positions because of no applications. How do universities get so many applications?<br /><br />RTAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-46936931877104659972010-01-08T09:09:56.436+05:302010-01-08T09:09:56.436+05:30Prof. Madras.
I like your spirit, and your attitu...Prof. Madras.<br /><br />I like your spirit, and your attitude. My friend and I are religious readers of this blog, and we are joining IISc soon. So, its somewhat a virtual window about what to expect in IISc, and it gives me some sort of relief that you (and the few more bloggers at IISc) can retain humor even when some comments are downright rude and ridiculous. I think it might be a good place to work.<br /><br />Lavanya R.Lavanya Rnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-70562705994317917242010-01-08T08:18:27.364+05:302010-01-08T08:18:27.364+05:30Dear M,
Don't spoil the fun :-) My colleague ...Dear M,<br /><br />Don't spoil the fun :-) My colleague told me that he reads this blog only for the humorous comments and not for my blog ! So, please read those funny comments ! Maybe I did "glamourise" myself by stating that I wanted to write research papers.<br /><br />Rainbow scientist makes an interesting point. I think she is well aware of the politics involved because she worked in an university in India.Giri@iischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11819278945207995261noreply@blogger.com