tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post7612255337351401576..comments2024-03-27T13:09:13.855+05:30Comments on Life in IISc: Publish or perishGiri@iischttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11819278945207995261noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-50515708706850987132010-02-26T19:22:40.326+05:302010-02-26T19:22:40.326+05:30Hii sir... i m getting 27.33 in gate - civil engin...Hii sir... i m getting 27.33 in gate - civil engineering... can i have a chance of getting score card?Ram Manohar Bokkisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09198670566939829453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-62164214734594350382010-02-26T16:28:21.805+05:302010-02-26T16:28:21.805+05:30International Journal of Beekeeping... This sounds...International Journal of Beekeeping... This sounds funnyVasanthnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-85440020995743229252010-02-24T10:29:00.029+05:302010-02-24T10:29:00.029+05:30Anon 4:31 PM,
In regards to your response to anon ...Anon 4:31 PM,<br />In regards to your response to anon 10:44 am, what is the point of a written acceptance then if it can be declinedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-37327737265996378912010-02-24T10:28:30.623+05:302010-02-24T10:28:30.623+05:30Anon 4:31 PM,
In regards to your response to anon ...Anon 4:31 PM,<br />In regards to your response to anon 10:44 am, what is the point of a written acceptance then if it can be declined.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-69518084361849716722010-02-24T09:10:42.567+05:302010-02-24T09:10:42.567+05:30Is maid servant easily available in Bangalore espe...Is maid servant easily available in Bangalore especially IISC campus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-51030410591770396212010-02-23T16:31:53.783+05:302010-02-23T16:31:53.783+05:30Yes, you can change especially if you had not kept...Yes, you can change especially if you had not kept the other IIT waiting for six or more months. for example, you got an offer in Jan 2010 from IIT-1, which you accepted and you have now got an offer from IIT-2. You can accept IIT-2 and inform IIT-1 that you are not joining.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-90951542337924678302010-02-23T16:15:23.442+05:302010-02-23T16:15:23.442+05:30One can safely go to his preferred IIT even if he/...One can safely go to his preferred IIT even if he/she has offers from other IITs as well. There have been many such instances in the past.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-34297500557653483242010-02-23T10:44:30.889+05:302010-02-23T10:44:30.889+05:30i recently accepted an offer from one of IIT. Soon...i recently accepted an offer from one of IIT. Soon after that I got a second offer from another IIT which was my first choice. Hence there is a grt dilemma in my mind which way to go. If anybody has been in such situation or know of similar instances then please email anonymously or otherwise at <br />feynman21@yahoo.com<br />Your advice and information will be appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-53469145210577794602010-02-20T11:17:11.765+05:302010-02-20T11:17:11.765+05:30Read this (it talks about NITs and research there)...Read this (it talks about NITs and research there)<br /><br />http://giridharmadras.blogspot.com/2009/08/rankings-of-iitiisc.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-90357702330124755842010-02-20T11:07:24.178+05:302010-02-20T11:07:24.178+05:30about the "real" effort to change the sy...about the "real" effort to change the system? This is the question probably faculties at the state universities can answer better. As far as I know, my supervisor is hoping that things will be better, but he don't know how many promises are real/deliverable.Rainbow Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01619911613235481638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-85933525791258383782010-02-20T10:56:24.714+05:302010-02-20T10:56:24.714+05:30How to change research culture? I don't know. ...How to change research culture? I don't know. I guess the problem is more psychological than the fund. <br /><br />I think at the state university or NIT level, probably people don't believe that they can be competitive. we also have culture of idolizing, so in education it is the elite institutes. The slow system plays an important role too. There are hard working and smart people everywhere, but they easily get demotivated (or even punished) in the system. Problems are many and at multi levels, and it may take long time and sincere efforts to improve things.Rainbow Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01619911613235481638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-91476211207065592922010-02-20T10:35:33.073+05:302010-02-20T10:35:33.073+05:30Anon,
Yes, the probation period is sometimes exte...Anon,<br /><br />Yes, the probation period is sometimes extended beyond one year. Legally, it can be extended for one more year before possible confirmation or termination.<br /><br />Thanks<br /><br />GiridharGiri@iischttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11819278945207995261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-65457395738583050212010-02-20T06:51:58.795+05:302010-02-20T06:51:58.795+05:30The probation period is IIX is 1 year. Is this per...The probation period is IIX is 1 year. Is this period extended sometimes. I mean legally is there a provision for the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-80385856201104005982010-02-20T04:47:03.384+05:302010-02-20T04:47:03.384+05:30Dear Rainbow Scientist,
Thanks for your detailed ...Dear Rainbow Scientist,<br /><br />Thanks for your detailed reply. Is there no "real" effort to improve the situation at state level universities, even though they may be baby steps?<br /><br />I am more disappointed with NITs because they are decently funded but research output is very poor. I have had some active interaction in last 12 months with one of TOP rated NITs. The research culture simply does not exist (with few exceptions). In fact some HODs were completely ignorant of the advances in their own fields. Govt. may spend tons of money on these institutions but how to change the mindset towards research is a major challenge. It is too slow of process. <br /><br /><br /><br />TAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-41627442764703986102010-02-20T00:38:46.847+05:302010-02-20T00:38:46.847+05:30Our college is the oldest (170 years old) and was ...Our college is the oldest (170 years old) and was most prestigious at a time. We still have bounded volumes of top Physics journals until 1970 in the library and instruments dating back to middle of 19th century which were probably at the top level at the time. So there were people who were interested in the current knowledge and also they had resources. Probably around 70s, these things started to change as the political climate changed and IIT system gained over the colleges and universities. <br /><br />I think the deterioration in the education system started in 70s. I can think of few reasons, 1. the IITs were given over-emphasis and more resources and, 2. politics came in the campus in university and college system (there are congress and BJP wings in most campuses). 3. education spread widely so the minimum bar of quality changed. 4. Finally Indian had control over the system but they didn't had knowledge of world university system, so we can think that the current system represents our own vision/level of the universities.Rainbow Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01619911613235481638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-15383073658363557452010-02-19T23:23:03.188+05:302010-02-19T23:23:03.188+05:30Dear TA,
It depends on who is the VC at a time. M...Dear TA,<br /><br />It depends on who is the VC at a time. Most of the VC appointments are political (state government decides about the VC and minister of higher education forwards names to the Governor given to him/her by chief secretary, I guess). Many a time local faculty becomes VC (sometime in the same university sometime in another state university) who actually are the product of the system and interested in the way it is working. You can only become VC if you are interested in local politics and you are the part of the gang supporting congress or BJP so when time comes you have some chance.<br /><br />State colleges have different system though. Here promotions are time based (in most cases commissioner higher education decides depending on the confidential report), and CR asks about the publications. so it is actually a babu deciding about education policies. Currently, in my state college faculties get order from commissioner on all matters including syllabus.<br /><br />And believe me, until I went to IISc (and later abroad) I had no idea about journal impact factor (although I had international publications thanks to my supervisor who was product of IIT Kanpur), and I think most of the VCs as well have no idea about all these things. In our university there are no international journal available. there is simply no money to buy any. The money is used to buy books which could be used for teaching or advance knowledge in general subject field. There are some books you can buy depending upon your research interest, but again it will be one or two in the whole library so in most cases you have no idea what is going on in the world in your field. I visited 3 times to IIT during my PhD to get the idea for latest publications in the field. <br /><br />Situation can be improved though if state universities get online access to international journals through IIT/IISc. And more faculties from state colleges and universities get chance to visit IIT/IISc on sabbatical and vice verse. They have been neglected far too long. This will automatically improve overall awareness and quality of our education system/research.Rainbow Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01619911613235481638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-55995353974516561012010-02-19T21:19:07.591+05:302010-02-19T21:19:07.591+05:30Dear Rainbow Scientist:
Does Vice Chancellor not ...Dear Rainbow Scientist:<br /><br />Does Vice Chancellor not have a say in the promotion of these faculty members in state universities? Usually VCs are not babus but academicians. I would expect that at least all VCs would know the value of impact factors and quality journals and would try to instill some quality. Are VCs also too political and act like Babus or just dont want to improve the system??? Since I was in one of the IITs, I have never had any experience with state universities in India.<br /><br />TA (Professor in US)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-43204071387095365402010-02-19T21:00:33.547+05:302010-02-19T21:00:33.547+05:30Forgot to add another valuable information on the ...Forgot to add another valuable information on the subject in my previous comment. <br /><br />To make matter simple, my college (a third tier city in north India) has started its own research journal. Last year, I got invitation from my previous colleague to contribute. What could be more simple to increase the number of publication? <br /><br />Although in an ideal note, its a good idea to make record of scientific activities in the institute/area/state, only it should not be called a publication in a sense of peer reviewed research publication we count, but who cares?Rainbow Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01619911613235481638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-31327862451594635972010-02-18T21:54:18.635+05:302010-02-18T21:54:18.635+05:30In my college, there was one person who was promot...In my college, there was one person who was promoted to a professor based on a large number of publications (>25). After I came to USA for graduate studies, I find that none of those journals are ever known and certainly not indexed by Web of Science.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-161334702962307902010-02-18T20:22:08.874+05:302010-02-18T20:22:08.874+05:30Anon, 4.35pm
yes, definitely. In my state univers...Anon, 4.35pm<br /><br />yes, definitely. In my state university where I got my PhD, there are people who have 30 articles from their PhD(in Physics) in journals nobody ever heard of. And this definitely helps them because ultimately in state universities and colleges, judges of your productivity are babus (sometime IASs but its the same).<br />I think though in IISc and established IITs these things could be very rare.Rainbow Scientisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01619911613235481638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6061089355607754501.post-20629782129033502882010-02-18T16:35:03.659+05:302010-02-18T16:35:03.659+05:30Is there any evidence of such activities in India?...Is there any evidence of such activities in India?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com