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«Oldest ‹Older 1001 – 1200 of 3339 Newer› Newest»@September 25, 2012 3:58 PM
Nice English skills. Keep it up.
hich is easier to get? Fast track, Ramanujam, Swarnajayanthi, JC Bose (all from DST)??
Fast track has a high percentage of approval.
Ramanujam (<30-35) is competitive and normally given to candidates applying from abroad. Around 10 per year in engineering?
Swarnajayanthi (< 40) is even more competitive. Only 1 per year in engineering.
JC Bose is for senior faculty (>50). Maybe 10 per year in engineering.
Hope this helps.
Giridhar
PS: Regarding success, I will write a small post !
@1000th comment September 26, 2012 9:37 AM
Thank you. Good skills have also been appreciated by the best wishes of two more respected IEEE fellow of Indian great institutes though it is from a villager.
@September 26, 2012 9:37 AM
You know what, the @September 25, 2012 3:58 PM guy must be an aging faculty. Usually they like to throw wisdom with no apparent facts
Regarding Financial grant for Ramanujan , I have received the finanacial sanction. It is very quick.
I submitted mid august and the sanction happened in a
month and the money is with the institute now.
@September 26, 2012 3:47 PM
What do you mean by apparent facts? You will understand the real facts only when you or your children/grandchildren will work as a contract labor(adhoc faculty/OCAP) after doing phD and post-doc from IISc/IITs/MIT/wisconsin.... etc.
Are you jealous!!!
@ September 25, 2012 8:18 PM,
Thank you for the advise. I think your are right.
By the way, Since I have an offer, so in the Ramanujan Fellowship
proposal, I have also included a small detail about the quantity of
Ph.D/JRF's that will be trained through the grant (through the projects).
Is it ok to include it? Or it is optional ? Kindly throw your insight
since you were successful in this award. Thanks.
I have a doubt regarding the amount released for the INSPIRE faculty. DST have asked for the budget deatils of 35 lakhs research grant. I would like to know if the fellowship amount (80,000/month) will also be sent to the institute. Or will they be sending research grant to the institute and fellowship directly to the candidate? Is the money released for 1 year initially?
I have a few doubts regarding the budget details of the research grant for the DST-INSPIRE faculty.
1. Is it compulsory that we should stick on to the 7 lakh/year research grant? Because I need to buy an equipment worth 6 lakhs in the first year. The fellowship of the research staff will come around 1.72 lakhs / year. These two itself add more than 7 lakh/year. So, can I claim for more than 7 lakhs for the first year?
2. I would also like to know if the fellowship amount (80,000/month) will also be sent to the institute along with the research grant. Or is it directly to the candidate?
To anon above for DST INSPIRE
Your concern is serious. This means we will not able to buy any big equipment at all.
Second major concern is that we will not be able to use even this 7 lakhs at our will. DST has created a really unrequired mandate by asking for distributing the budget for all 5 years. However, predicting and separating the budget for consumables/salary and equipments for all 5 years in this initial stage will not be justified at all, as it more depends on the dynamics of the project work and the results obtained. It would be really painful, if say later, we need more of consumables than equipments, and DST denies this!!
I do not know why these people have barred the grant from now. For the first batch, it was all contingency money, which can be used at their will. Though there was the risk that awardees will start using money in travel more than required. To avoid that, they should have placed a bar just on travel (10%), but not on rest of the contingency.
On one side they seek qualities of independent-self starters, and on other side they put these lowly binding rules. So where is the sanity!!
Lets write emails to DST INSPIRE section for removing these unessential barrings on the grant, so that we can use our grant judicially and appropriately.
SM
New trend in hiring ? IITGa (Physics) just hired someone with an Msc:
http://www.iitgn.ac.in/faculty.htm#physics
Anonymous @September 30, 2012 8:53 AM:
I think the person may have submitted his thesis, and even defended, but the degree may not have been awarded.
Anonymous @September 30, 2012 8:53 AM:
It may not be a new 'trend' by IITGN. The above reply may be true. But I know one 'Tecahing Faculty' at IITGN who was there for a semester or so in Civil Engg. in last year with only M.Tech. degree (no PhD). So in this case also, this candidate may be only 'Teaching Faculty' for a 'short time', if no PhD degree is awarded. IIT system has NOT yet changed guideline to take NON-PhD candidate as 'Regular Faculty'. For 'Temporary' and 'Only Teaching' PhD is NOT a must in IIT system. Hence it is ok, no new trend.
@September 26, 2012 3:47 PM
Thank You for observing silence to a dead hope. Because a buried hope was brought to alive by sprinkling wisdom powder of respected search committee and was offered as scapegoat in front of selection committee. Though buried hope never uttered a word before that offering.
does the teaching only faculty once he/she gets a PhD get absorbed as a regular faculty?...then it will be an unfair backdoor entry!!...earlier someone had bought up the case in IISER-TVM where they had a faculty in chemistry joining right upon getting PhD,,with absolutely no post-doc and just 4 or so papers...that is even worse
Dear Anon@September 30, 2012 5:23 PM,
No, teaching only faculty is never absorbed later as regular faculty just because of adding PhD degree behind their name. Mostly these teaching only faculty positions are temporary as mentioned above, and for limited time only. And in IIT, no body is absorbed in regular position just like that, at all levels it's always 'selection' and not 'promotion'. there is huge difference between these two words, atleast in IIT system.
@September 30, 2012 5:23 PM
Let the responsible authority/committee exercise their wisdom over "selection/promotion" in Indian academic system. The wisdom seeds which someone rows today in front of young innocents, no doubt tomorrow they will also taste the fruits.
@ IIT Professors,
I require two very urgent informations. I shall be thankful if someone can
throw some light on it.:
a) are OCI card holders eligible for permanent employment with all
benefits @ IIT as Profs ?
b) If I join as Asst. Prof. in DEC 2012 for e.g., will I be eligible for
the vacation in the summers next year (e.g. June/July/August 2013) ?
Thank you."
Why the vibes of this blog are suddenly vanished?
@October 3, 2012 3:39 PM:
Please check the answers to these questions with the Dean of Faculty Affairs of your IIT. Call him/her up if needed.
1) Yes.
2) Possibly yes, but I am not 100% sure. Technically every 30 days that you work entitles you to a day of earned leave. So you can calculate how much leave you will earn. On the other hand if you want to go abroad for some academic work in summer, you can do so (I think you use your "special leave"). I do know that some people joined in the Janyary semester and then back to their postdoc lab (abroad) in summer for a month or so.
what is the current rate? http://www.thehindu.com/education/article3012207.ece
preposterous!
@October 8, 2012 12:32 AM
I knew similar news for Master degree in arts/commerce(MA/MCom). But how does this news link help the prospective faculty of this blog? Anyway IIX can not offer to all those who walked a long path sincerely through hardship and earned a "Dr." from IIX itself.
point taken.
but it makes undeserving people compete with you....
Selection @ IIT Kanpur
1. applied in November 2011
2. Got communication in February about their interest
3. Visited in April 2012
4. They said they will process for Selection committeee
5. Still waiting
So long Process......
@October 8, 2012 1:12 PM
Thank you. But many are already out of competition!!!
is that so? look at the new IIXs.
Congratulations to professor Giri for crossing 6000 citations !
http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=PUZ8qcgAAAAJ
@October 9, 2012 7:03 AM
Thank You. But not anymore interested... retired hurt!!!
Congratulations Prof. Giri. You have done a great service by your selfless dedication.
Hi all .. Does any one know when the next Ramanujan selection meeting will be? It has now been about 5 months since the previous meeting.
I'm also expecting the same. I applied for Ramanujan fellowship 4 months back. Ankur, did you attempt calling Kohli or his office people?
No I haven't contacted Dr Kohli in the recent past.
The next committee meets in December for Ramanujan fellowships
Ankur: do you know when was the last selection meeting held for Ramanujan Fellowship?
^ last meeting was held in early May 2012.
Anon@ October 12, 2012 7:35 PM: how did you obtain the information that the meeting will be held in Dec?
@learned people: I was reading in this blog some months ago about a possible hike in Ramanujan Fellowship and grant. Any news on that?
Wish you all a very happy Nabaraatri and Durga puja! Enjoy the festival to the most!
@Anon October 19, 2012 4:48 PM
Hope that Maa Durga wipes out all the "Mahishasura's of Indian academics.
Children's of lesser gods.
I see that no one here comments on the private universities in India. Please excuse me if it is not relevant here. But could someone post about their experiences with private universities like Lovely Prof. U., Nirma U. etc? Is it true that they pay more than 20 lakhs/yr for foreign Ph.Ds? I see some of them are backed by industry giants with loads of money. Do they have resources at least similar to new IITs? Are they allowed to do government sponsored research? I was wondering if someone knowledgeable about these universities could post some information here.
@October 19, 2012 9:32 PM
Tathastu!
But I doubt the existence of "THE WOMAN" who is blessed with power and wisdom in Indian academics to save the children of lesser GOD!
@October 25, 2012 8:41 AM
Yes. Some private universities do offer a good pay and position/designation. They have good buildings and are trying to tap the knowledge from someone's talent! (Which might have proven academic record of IITs/IISc/along with other universities abroad and publications). But I was not sure enough about the dignity/respect and stability there. So I did not join.
@October 19, 2012 9:32 PM
I liked it. You are right. Poor children.
@ Anon October 25, 2012 12:03 PM
With no offense to our academic mafias, can you sincerely ask what real contribution they have made to Indian science ? Does their research have any direct impact at any sphere in Indian society. We even don't have a respectable journal where science -not garbage- can be published.
I guess the main reason no one tries for these private universities is that they have no research reputation.
These universities could, if they are serious about it, buy off some of the research bigshots from Indian academia, industry or from foreign universities and build departments around them. But no university seems to have done that except ISB. Perhaps over time Shiv Nadar U will also turn out to be quite good. But for the Indian academia is generally surviving on picking low-hanging fruits, rather than on excellence.
Seeing a couple of responses about private universities above, I am beginning to think if government favors university reputation for awarding grant money in India. If you can buy equipment and pursue research with, say, 1/10th of hassle at a private university compared to IIXs (especially the new ones), and earn more than thrice as much (assuming Anon@8:41 AM is right), which option do bloggers here prefer; reputation or ease of conducting research with good pay?
@October 25,2012 7:28PM
You may ask the query regarding research in science in Indian academics to all respected researcher.
I had posted a similar query as a young innocent in response to " Congratulations to professor Giri for crossing 6000 citations !
http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=PUZ8qcgAAAAJ
October 9, 2012 7:53 AM ".
But the post was deleted from the blog!
@October 25, 2012 9:42 PM
Definitely a different charm exists for some people to get the things through struggle and achieving it! Because the children of lesser GOD might have got the lesson from the poor mother not to just earn money rather showcase their intelligence in achieving heights through IIT, JEE, GATE, GRE, TOEFEL....also acquire the lesson from great teachers of reputed institutes!
For those of you waiting for the Ramalingaswami Fellowship 2012 advertisement, check the DBT website, the Ad is out.
Thanks,
RP
@young innocent
You keep your eyes open before accepting any offer from private universities. Because the package any private university can offer that is under AICTE norms. Some private universities do have bigshots from IITs as vice-chancellor though you may not see him when you are selected and offered.
@ October 25, 2012 9:42 PM: The decision not to join a private university is not just based on research facilities and money.
I would still go for the kind of reputation, job security, and most importantly respect, that an IIX provides. A private university owner (who can be a mafia don/ corrupt businessman/ politician) has the potential to treat you as "just an employee".
If you are sincere about your research work, there is rarely a lack of funds/ good students/ support at an IIX.
Can anyone tell me the reason of preferring a prospective candidate with imported flavor(phD/post-doc from abroad)by the selection committee of Indian academics than their own research product even though some prospective candidates (phd/post-doc from IIX) have equivalent or better output?
Why the great people hate/deprive/humiliate their own research students ?
I don't believe selection committees prefer "candidates with imported flavour over own research product with equivalent or better output". If measured output were the only criterion for selection, we would not need a selection committee, a clerk can tabulate the output and rank candidates based on a given algorithm, assigning ranks like in JEE or GATE. Selection committees may appear to have this bias as more often than not, this "own research product" demonstrates better output on account of the advisor and this may not translate into better output after selection.
May I know the measuring criteria of an aspiring candidate with good presentation and soft skills and better or equivalent output in case the candidate does not have even phD adviser's recommendation but do have unbiased recommendation from IEEE fellow and associate editor and also belong to weaker section of society?
The aspiring candidate had faith on selection committee but was proved wrong.
@October 28, 2012 6:00 PM
You may also not believe that when a prospective candidate was heartily welcomed by the faculty search committee in your own institute after the department-presentation in front of faculties of particular department. The person was even escorted by providing an a/c car to catch train at night at the end of the day.
But the aspiring candidate knew the result even before the presentation and interview of selection committee when he/she saw his/her PhD thesis internal reviewer as an external there.
The candidate did not even feel to comment against the intelligent decision of respected selection committee.
Do you really want details to know..even more on this blog and defend on behalf of respected selection committee?
Because today this killed hope does not have any fear.
does anyone here have first hand info on the typical timeline for faculty application processing in TIFR and NCBS? roughly how the process flow is and how long it takes from applying to a campus visit and a final hard offer( again i understand it can only be approximate)
Dear "killed hope", it is good to see that you have no fear. More importantly, I would urge you to convert your fearlessness into hope. I am not going to defend any selection committees - by and large, they do a decent job, but they are not infallible. They miss some good candidates here and there (including our host Prof. Giridhar) and sometimes pick some duds. Not having a recommendation from guide is going to be a problem unless you counter it early. If you wait till the interview and your not-so-friendly internal examiner shows up there you have little chance of countering it at that stage. Sometime after you apply, you can tell the HoD and perhaps also the Director that you had / have strained relationship with your guide and are hence not getting a reco from the guide but would like to provide one from respected Prof. X instead. Even now, you can write to the Director stating that you had / have some difficulty with guide and with internal examiner in the selection committee you feel you did not get the chance you deserve. It may not be possible to undo what the selection committee has already done, but something good can come from this.
Thank You Professor for your very good response.
You may not know that today is a very special day for me and already a little new hope is celebrating her birthday today!
I would be grateful if some of the people on here who have obtained the Ramanujan Fellowship can provide me with a link to any terms and conditions associated with the Fellowship. I have been awarded the Fellowship recently and I would like to know the terms of it, especially with regard to Leave Rules and utilization of the Grant money. Thanks for any help you can give.
Hi All,
Could anybody share experience about extension of joining at IIXs.
I recently got an offer from IIX and now doing postdoc. I am interested to conplete my project before join IIX.
Any advise would be helpful.
Anon @October 31, 2012 7:43 PM,
This is a standard situation. I would suggest you talk to your HoD and figure out a compromise. With that achieved you can approach the Dean.
Anon @October 31, 2012 3:27 PM,
When were you awarded the Ramanujan fellowship?
Any one has any idea about UGC-FRP results? It has been more than a year since I applied and more than 3 months since interview? Should I wait for six more months to get results?
Thank you
YM
@Ankur Kulkarni :
I was awarded the Ramanujan Fellowship in the last batch, ie, in July.
Ramanujan Fellowship: Research Proposal:-
I have a question about research proposal. The AD says that it should not exceed 5 pages and ask to briefly explain research proposal. Could anyone suggest if I need to include detailed task descriptions and methodology and any task wise progress bar chart. Or it is simply the scope of the project and impact, and bullet wise task those might be included. Since it is 5 years award, how to justify proposal for 5 years? Any suggest. I would appreciate.
I am writing in response to the conversation between killed hope and iitsriram. Having had strained relationship with my PhD advisor in India, I faced a tough battle when it came time to look for a faculty position back in India. Lucky for me, I had a very successful postdoc and several faculty in US were ready to write letters of recommendation for me. Most of the Institutions interviewed and liked me (all in person) before they asked for letters. My PhD advisor obviously did not send letters. However, the places I got offers from wrote to him directly to ask for letters and he had no choice but to send them (In other cases, he did not). In one of the places I was really interested in, I talked to one of the professors and explained the situation in advance and I did get an offer. So, as IITSriram said, there is a way around if you are a good candidate but you may have to do extra leg work.
Good luck!
@November 6, 2012 2:19 AM
Thank you for good luck wishes.
I may not reveal everything here in the blog but certainly the wounded hope will come back once it revives from the injuries by nature care because it may not be able to work an extra leg for the challenge as a weak person.
Can anyone please help:
Ramanujan Fellowship: Research Proposal:-
I have a question about research proposal. The AD says that it should not exceed 5 pages and ask to briefly explain research proposal. Could anyone suggest if I need to include detailed tasks descriptions and methodology and any task wise progress bar chart. Or it is simply the scope of the project and impact, and bullet wise tasks those might be included. Since it is 5 years award, how to justify proposal for 5 years? Any suggest. I would appreciate
I had a question for INSPIRE awardees and others who have had experience dealing with DST. The INSPIRE award puts bounds on the amounts for things like equipment, travel contingencies etc. I am a theoretician and I don't require any equipment. I would like to have that money moved to travel instead. Can someone guide me on whether this is possible and how I may go about doing this?
I do not understand if someone claims himself to be a theoretician and does not require any equipment then why does he need to convert fellowship money into travel contingency? Is that the purpose of using the any fellowship in Indian academics?
Ankur,
You can make redistribution of the INSPIRE award money with the approval of your institute and DST by providing justification. Generally, a very large amount do not get allocated for travel unless you have a very strong case, such as your work predominantly depends on a national facility (e.g. synchrotron source) or you work includes field study which involves much travel.
Then, whatever money you do not spend in a year, you can carry it forward to the next year with proper justification.
Regards,
Chris
Thanks Chris. According to you, should I request this redistribution before or after accepting the fellowship? I am at a stage where I haven't accepted the fellowship yet. I fear that if I sign the undertaking, no further changes would be entertained.
Anon @November 7, 2012 11:45 AM,
I strongly suspect you are trolling, but I will still explain. For someone who works at the intersection of information theory, game theory and control theory, there are at least two conferences that are important. The IEEE CDC and the IEEE ISIT. The registration for these conferences amounts to about $600-800. The flight is say $1500, probably more and the accommodation comes to 100/day for 5/6 days. The total comes to between $2500-$3000, or about 1.3-1.8 L.
The INSPIRE money for travel is Rs70k, which clearly is insufficient to cover this.
The INSPIRE grant comes with bounds on every head, so if you don't use the equipment money, it cannot be moved elsewhere because some other bounds get violated. That money is about 2.5L. Is it not sensible that this money be used in heads where the amount is falling short? I don't see what the rhetoric about Indian academia has to do with this. The PI decides what his priorities are.
Ankur,
You can check with your (future) chairman or some faculty at IITB about redistribution guidelines of that particular institute, in addition to checking the question with DST. The problem with DST is that you may not get a reply soon and one cannot afford to wait indefinitely without accepting the offer.
I am sorry that I could not answer your question directly, as my knowledge about this aspect is very limited.
Chris
PS. BTW, I liked your reply to Anon @November 7, 2012 11:45 AM! I will leave it to your imagination, what could be state of Indian academia/ research institutions, if such people occupy higher level administrative posts, which unfortunately is true at most institutions!
Thank you all for sharing your experiences. It is indeed a good forum for aspirants (like me) who would like to join academia in India. I have some questions regarding industrial consultancy and projects, start-up company.
Q1 What is exactly difference between Industrial consultancy and project and how does Institute decide about whether an industrial assignment is industrial consultancy or project?
Q2 How does the remuneration from industrial assignment split between institute and faculty?
Q3 Is there any upper limit on remuneration from industrial assignments?
Q4 Can faculty head the start-up while in IIX?
It would be nice if someone shares their experience or answers on above questions.
Thanking you in advance!
@Ankur
You need not suspect!! You may experience it very soon. Your explanation may be convincing/sensible to you but even then it may not be convincing/sensible to some administration of many institutes of national importance in India. It is not always true that the PI decides what his priorities are.
At the same time I would like to say that I may not even know about your research area or you as an achiever/great researcher but certainly can guess that you do not have a lesson touch from IISc.
@Chris
Thank you. You need to worry because Anon @November 7, 2012 11:45 AM! is a young innocent and a victim who has learnt a lesson from one of the great research institutes of India.
I think this confirms that Anon @November 7, 2012 11:45 AM is a troll:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29
You may think so. But a troll will not come back with a reply !!!
Anonymous on October 26, 2012 1:02 PM said, "Definitely a different charm exists for some people to get the things through struggle and achieving it! Because the children of lesser GOD might have got the lesson from the poor mother not to just earn money rather showcase their intelligence in achieving heights through IIT, JEE, GATE, GRE, TOEFEL....also acquire the lesson from great teachers of reputed institutes!"
Is it possible by any chance that you are getting confused between
1. struggling with challenging research problems and achieving results, and
2. struggling with obtaining resources and infrastructure for doing research?
I might be wrong but your message clearly seems to imply the challenge of option 1, while the Anonymous of October 25, 2012 9:42 PM appears to ask about option 2.
Finally, I think selection committees for Ramanujan, Swarnajayanthi etc. should prefer candidates who can decipher CAPTCHA these days. I am trying my luck and typing "regyaliz10". Hopefully, it works the first time!
@Ankur:
Please do tell us (in future) whether or not are you able to convince the authorities to use your fellowship money for travel and other contingencies. Although, by reading Saswata's comments about his experiences at IITG, I believe it would be a really difficult task.
Frankly, I believe it is a bit stupid to look at every research field with the same lens and put arbitrary caps on various expenses.
I too am a theoretician like yourself, have just finished my PhD and will be applying for a faculty position in a 2-3 year time-frame. Hence, a bit curious to know about the various processes
@Prashant, my host, IITB is fine with the reallocation. I spoke to DST and they said that until last year they did not have caps, and individuals had complete freedom, but that resulted in problems. Now, with the caps also there are problems. The person I spoke to was very sympathetic and agreed that these caps were making things hard. In fact the authority that forms these guidelines is looking for feedback to revise their guidelines. I sent them an email explaining the situation. Hopefully guidelines in the future will be more flexible.
Thanks for the quick reply.
It is certainly good to know that things are being done rationally.
@Prashant, As far as I know, moving budget between different heads is not easy for any funding agency world. So this is not a India specific problem.
Sympathetic gesture of an authority may not satisfy the need.
I think converting IEEE conference paper to IEEE transaction wiil be an easier challenge!
@inspire fellows
how much percentage of salary is payable as tax?
dear all,
I think INDIA needs GOOD/HONEST leaders at this time i guess...
I want to serve my country make it corrupt free , and my aim is to lead our country in a good way .
I am doing ME in IISC , I wanted to get a good technical knowledge so that I will be technically perfect in leading our country .
some of my seniors suggested me to write IES / IAS than doing ME in IISC.
i am in first sem now ......
my question is ...
1) is it waste of one seat in IISC if I take IES and leave INSTITUTE?
2)I dont want to work for any oter country except INDIA , as it has given me opportunity , good environment, scholarship , encouragement....etc.
what is the best field in INDIA to serve ?
3) which option u suggest for me ???
a) IES
b) LECTURING
c) PHD
d) POLITICS
e) ISRO
f) START OWN COMPANY
G) JOIN ANY PSU AND BE CALM
......
Hi
My question is regarding extension of joining at IIX. Is this enough to inform HoD and dean about joining date or Do I need to take written official confirmation from IIX. How typically it works?
Anon @ November 20, 2012 6:55 PM,
I suggest you talk to your HoD and make sure (s)he is ok with your joining date. Then seek the Dean's official permission. In my case the dean was ok with it so long as the HoD was ok with it. I managed everything over email, so it never involved any hard copy of a letter.
Hi all,
Can anyone share their experience with the final interview process at BITS.
Thank you
R
To Anon at November 20, 2012 6:50 PM:
I have also done my ME from IISc. My advice to you as your senior is, now that you are in IISc, give it a shot. Forget about everything else and just enjoy your stay there and learn, and think deep about what you are learning. Also, you cannot take the right decision if you keep asking this question every two months. I would say forget totally about it till you are done with your ME. If you are still confused after your ME, I would stay stick to the opportunity that IISc education gives you. Even if you stay confused for rest of your life, you would have led a life much better than many others and also would have unknowingly contributed immensely to India by just working in India and paying taxes. I feel that one can also contribute by staying abroad (if you get a Nobel or Fields, or see academic or professional success, that would give a great name to our country).
Another way to look at this is the following. The purpose of education and one of the reasons behind govt is spending so much money on education, is for people to have a quality life. If you think deep on what is taugh at IISc (or any good institute for that matter), your way of thinking, looking at things, changes considerably. I think, that will help you introspect better and take wise decisions.
I have met many students in IISc, who have this question in the first semester. Some have indeed quit and got through IES/IAS. So, success probability may not be that low, but it is better to not take such a grand decision when you are not getting your answers from within. And my experience says that the best way to get an answer is to forget about it for a while, relax, chill. First be wise, and then take wise decisions.
My apologies to other readers if they think that I should not have encouraged such a question in this thread.
Thanks Ankur
to: anonymous
November 20, 2012 11:06 PM
thank you vry much for your advice :)
sure I will concentrate on studies :)
thnx a lot ...
@R:November 20, 2012 10:46 PM
Now things have changed in BITS, which is trying to be MIT(forget about IITs), so you may have strange criteria and weird question. Actually, officials are confused what exactly they are trying to shape up BITS. So my suggestions are, go blank ahead, and answers based on your gut feeling, and pray someone can hear you, that's it. Good luck.
Do you know if result of inspire faculty for interview for life-sciences is out or not?
Thanks
Rudra
@November 20, 2012 11:06 PM
You need not seek apology. Your reply/suggestions to a confused innocent(who might be facing a great challenge) was correct.
@ November 21, 2012 10:48 AM
Thank you very much for your suggestions. Do think they are focusing on your future teaching and research plans (like in MIT interviews) or on what you have learned way back in your 1st or 2nd year of bachelors.
Thank you
R
IIT delhi selection interviews for physics is on DEC 2. anyone who has been communicated regarding this ?
@Chris and other Inspire awardees: after sending acceptance and budget utilisation plan, what are the next steps and how long does it take for the fellowship to kick in?
@Ankur: I sent the documents around a month ago and tried sending emails to ask how much time it might take. My host also sent an email to the concerned person but yet no reply or even an acknowledgement. I am supposed to join on 1st December. I have no idea if thats possible.
But around 1.5-2 months back I had asked about the procedure after submission of documents. I was told that if the documents are in order the money will be transferred in about 2 weeks time. That now seems not to be true atleast in my case.
Rahul Marathe
Thanks Rahul. You sent the documents (budget utilisation) by post or by email?
@Ankur both
@ Ankur, sashwata, ratnesh and other Ramanujan Awardees,
Though I have read a lot of comments about Ramanujan Fellowship
eligibility rules but still not clear. Actually, I will be joining an IIT
next month after returning from abroad. I have applied for Ramanujan
Fellowship in October 2012 after accepting my offer in an IIT (forwarded
by my IIT).
1) Can you please comment on my eligibility to receive this award?
2) When are upcoming result announcement for Ramanujan Fellowship due ?
Thanks,
Anonymous @ November 26, 2012 8:57 PM
Could you tell me whom should I contact to forward my Ramanujan fellowship application?
I have received an offer from IIx and doing postdoc abroad. I would like to apply for this before I join IIx.
Anon @November 26, 2012 8:57 PM,
My understanding is that you are eligible. The rules as they are do not make you ineligible. There may however be an unwritten thumb-rule by which preference may be given to candidates who are abroad, though I do not know of any such thumb-rule. There are ample examples of people who were awarded the Ramanujan fellowship after they had accepted (or joined) an offer.
I am waiting for the results myself, so I don't know about the other question.
Anon @November 26, 2012 10:01 PM,
Contact your dean of faculty affairs and request him forward the application. If you send it directly, it will not be entertained.
@ Ankur,
Sorry for the delay in my reply. I was busy with the end-sem exams.
Hope you had sent your acceptance for the INSPIRE award through your host institution. You or your host will not get any acknowledgement.
After you have joined your institute, you need to send your joining report (again through your host institution) along with the bank account details of the host institute. You will get an ackn letter by snail mail from DST stating that the money will be transferred to your host. Then, on one fine day you will receive a call from your institute's admin office that they have received the grant money!
In my case, I joined IIT on Apr. 11, 2012 and got the Inspire money on Apr. 23, 2012.
Regards,
Chris
@ Ankur
Thanks for your reply.
Do I need to send original signed form for R-fellowship to Dean of faculty affairs for forwarding to DST or it should be done over email.
My understanding is that original and four photocopies need to send to DST.
G
@Chris I think this time the system is different. There an undertaking which the institute and applicant have to sign. And in the offer letter itself, they have asked for bank details etc to be sent to DST, but that is separate from the undertaking.
Anon @November 27, 2012 2:27 AM,
I did it by email. Also, there is no "original", since no signature etc was involved, at least from my end.
For Ramanujan fellowship: There is a very clear unwritten thumb rule that candidates applying with a foreign affiliation are preferred over Indian candidates.The last two-three selection lists supports this rule. Please apply from abroad, and come back to India after getting selected for the fellowship.
If you are having an Indian affiliation, apply for INSPIRE fellowship where there is no such thumb rule.
I appreciate the encouragement shown by Saswata. Let the young scientists/theoreticians carry the legacy of Indian research with foreign affiliation in India and others let them be inspired by INSPIRE only.
Thanks Ankur and Saswata.
Your advises are really fruitful.
Hi Friends,
I am applying for Ramalingaswami Fellowship. Is it possible that the DBT accept the application in soft copy forwarded by my host institute?
Thanks in advance.
-B
To the person who asked about TIFR on October 29. The process for me, from application to offer took about three months. Very positive experience.
@Ankur: regarding earlier conversation abt. INSPIRE grant etc., I joined my host institute on 1st Dec. then yesterday emailed my joining report to INSA/DST concerned person through my host institute, a scanned copy by email and a hard copy by regular post. I came to know today (by email) that they have already instructed the bank to transfer first installment of grant+salary to host institutes account. My host institute and myself will be getting a sanction letter soon.
Rahul Marathe
Hi Friends,
I am applying for Ramalingaswami Fellowship. Is it possible that the DBT accept the application in soft copy forwarded by my host institute?
Thanks in advance.
-B
@Rahul Marathe, thanks and all the best! If you find the time please continue contributing to this forum to help other readers.
Dear Sir,
I am doing direct PhD after B.Tech from JU as an external fellow and am a JRF in CSIR-CMERI. Sir please clear my some of following doubts.
I wish to be appearing for government exams like BARC etc.... My question is:
- CAN I CONTINUE MY PhD if I JOIN SOME OTHER GOVT ORGANISATION ????
- DO I HAVE TO INFORM my lab before applying for any govt job as I am only a JRF in there ????
Kindly guide me Sir. It would be a great help from you for me.
Thanks and Regards
Is it possible to hire a postdoc for a new faculty at IIT? If somebody have hired then please share your experience
Hi All
I have some questions regarding DST INSPIRE interview (2012 session 2). As I applied for the Direct mode, is it better to contact a host institute before the interview or it is better doing so only after being selected.
@ Anon,8th Decemeber,1:32 PM
Not that easy to get a post doc in the initial 3 or 4 years. First of all , post doc culture is not well in place at IIX. As far as I know only IISc has official post doc position supported by institute fund. In case you have industrial/DST project that can support RA you can always hire a post doc. Best of luck.
@December 10, 2012 5:55 AM
IISc offers post-doc fellowship (IISc-RA) but it may happen that you will not be able to make it to be a successful post-doc fellow there.
I had the offer from IISc and was unsuccessful to get a Professor though I begged to many respected professor.
Anon @ December 10, 2012 10:22 AM,
I guess Anoon at December 10, 2012 5:55 AM is saying that new faculty at IISc can hire post doc as post doc fellowship is available at institute level. Otherwise new faculty need to pay from his/her own project if he /she wants to hire a post doc.. Anyways if you are new as a faculty faculty at IIX, then there is a very rare chance that a candidate would approach you for a post doc.
IIT Kanpur gives fellowships for postdocs and so does IIT Gn (as on their websites). So I'm guessing institute funding for postdocs isn't restricted to IISc.
As anonymous@Dec 10, 12:33 PM rightly points out, there is a very rare chance that a candidate would approach you for a postdoc if you are very young yourself. But it would be interesting to know the experiences of senior Professors on this.
No, I am blessed that I am not a new faculty at IIX. But young to Indian academic system and enjoying a very good experience being in the system.
I feel someone should not be in hurry to get into his/her own schedule to reach the target. It may be better to follow the footsteps of many old Professors.
I wrote the previous post with a different focus and hoped to get a view on my post.
Yes, do follow the steps of old professors and not people like Prof. Giridhar and publish too much.
Publish as little as possible like the old professors.
If publications have the value then search committee might not faced too difficult in filtering out applications for prospective faculty.
Did you hear that some of institute of national importance are conducting
writing exam. to select assistant professor? And many of prospective faculties are the product of IISc.
Ya that's called an incompetent faculty search committee...
Dear all,
How much can a Ph.D. (from USA) with 5 years of Post-Doc experience (in USA) can expect as starting salary in a non IIX, say for ex. BITS.
I highly appreciate your response
Thanks in advance
R
Relation ship with PH. D. mentor does not depend only upon your ability, productivity and academic excellence.
Some of the PH.D mentors are so insecure and do not want to help their potential students to become faculties in reputed institutes in India.
A real hard situation in this country to face these kind of insecure people.
I think this is not only my experience, i do see in this blog by various others.
What can one do in this situation?
Many of the IITs ask preferably mentors recommendation.
While recommendation letters are meant to asses your research potential, productivity, etc.... and be commented by the mentor.
I wonder if the purpose is really served.
I am surprised ! I am not expecting a miracle to happen. But I wonder what makes you to be a "Mr. India" ?(Kindly do not misunderstand me.)
I also feel good. It might happen I was not strong enough to figure out between two personality (respected senior professor as a mentor and an IISc product at home. Though I followed the later at the end).
Thank you very much.
@December 10, 2012 12:33 PM
I had very bad experienec at IISc. I was lucky to get one good candidate to do Post doc under me but when I discussed this with senior faculty members to hire the candidate as institute pstdoc fellow, no body supportd that. In fact they indirectly asked me to drop the idea..:)
@above, As far as I know, IISc has effectively scrapped the institute postdoc fellowship. So unless we have grant (it takes roughly 2 yrs to get the first grant), new faculty can not basically hire anyone, let alone postdoc.
If a young research mind become unsuccessful to make a successful IISc post-doc fellowship which was offered in 2009 ....was a drawback/inability/incompetent in front of selection committee in the council chamber at IISc when the aspiring young mind got an interview call letter after two years of application?
OR was the reason that the candidate did not have the recommendation letter from his/her respected senior professor as PhD mentor?
OR respected faculty search committee did not get any better scape goat to offer?
What did prompt me to write a comment on a raised post-doc related issue in this blog?
Killed hope turned to a wounded hope (as was urged by respected professor iitmsriram) was trying to heal the injured wounds by working with first phD student and scheduled date for her comprehensive viva. But the academic system created unreasonable issues just to postpone the schedule...which was another attempt to kill the wounded hope in front of another aspiring hope. Though I won the battle and many may wonder my purpose. I do expect nothing from great people of great institute.
Dear Anon @December 8, 2012 1:32 PM,Anon @ December 11, 2012 6:25 PM and other new faculty members at IIX, do not get discouraged by the comments of old professor and by many others about hiring postdoc in your initial career. I just discovered website of a new professor at IITB who has got one post doc in his group..here is the link..
https://sites.google.com/site/plasticoptoelectronicslab/home/members
make your own ways..no need to follow same steps as suggested by one professor..if you have talent you can find your own way…Good luck
Hi All
I have some questions regarding DST INSPIRE interview (2012 session 2). As I applied for the Direct mode, is it better to contact a host institute before the interview or it is better doing so only after being selected.
@December 13, 2012 6:28 PM
But I strongly feel young faculty at Indian academics must respect the old professors and follow them. Otherwise they can not be successful to carry the legacy of Indian research. The lesson what an old professor can teach many aspiring young talent to swim(not to fly) the pacific ocean and maintain the balance in their work, any young faculty at IIX could not do in last 4-5 years.
I seek apology if I have hurt any respected professor without my knowledge. I will worship many respected old professor at IIX as an Ekalavya.May be there are many limitations in Indian academics due to which I was hurt.
I am INSPIRE Faculty Fellow. My institute’s administration has a query about leave rules for INSPIRE Faculty fellow. How may leave days (casual leave, medical leave etc ) are entitled to a INSPIRE Faculty fellow?
Thank you
Yogesh
Does anyone receive interview call from Biochemical Engineering, IIT Delhi?
For those expecting results of Ramanujan fellowship...
Based on my recent conversation with Dr.S.S.Kohli, the results can be expected around the end of Jan. 2013.
Whether UGC closed UGC FRP programme? Its more than a year I applied, and 4 months to interview… slowest recruitment procedure!!!!!
Dear Senior IIX Professors,
NDTV says: "The Rajya Sabha has voted in favour of a Bill that seeks to amend the Constitution to allow reservation in government job promotions for Dalits and tribals - 206 votes were cast in favour of the Bill and 10 against it of a total 216. " Since IIX faculty are also government officers, will their promotion be based on caste as well ?
"will their promotion be based on caste as well ?"
Yes and it is a good start. Next, promotions should be based on OBC also, not just SC/ST.
Anon @December 17, 2012 2:38 PM,
Do you know if the selection meeting is done? Previous experience shows that results come about 3 months after the meeting. And any estimate that Dr Kohli provides gets postponed by about 2 months.
Has anyone got the call letter from IIT Kharagpur for faculty interviews?
Ankur @December 18, 2012 3:47 AM
No such details. Kohli just said that the results can be expected by the end of Jan.2013 and cut the conversation.
The reservation bill may be for IAS people only. Internal revenge may not give a sweet taste at the end.
IITs do not have promotions in faculty positions - IISc has something that might be described as promotion, but the IITs have only direct recruitment and no promotions; meaning, asst profs and asso profs have to apply against an advertisement along with external candidates and be interviewed by a selection committee. Further, all IIX faculty posts are group A and (selection based) promotions within group A are outside the scope of the reservations in promotions bill which applies only to promotions up to the level of group A entry point.
I may remain as an Ekalavya by birth. But I earned my phD from IIX and present academic position under open category and being a woman
(GOD's blessings)I feel I am lucky.
I want to correct myself for the above post "phD from IIT-X" in place of IIX.
I don't if my previous post did not succeed or the host deemed it too trivial so I am putting it again.
I will be obliged if someones spares a moment to answer few things -
1. Is pre PhD industrial experience considered in appontment as Asst Prof in Engineering at IITs?
2. How many publications are required to be eligible for Astt Prof? Also is Impact Factor important or number of papers assuming they in decent journals?
3. Lastly can application be made after submission of thesis or one has to wait till degree is conferred?
Thanks in advance
SM
@SM
1. Simply No. ( or at least in my case it was not considered)
2. More the better
3. Degree is always better than these submission stage.
Thanks @ anon above
Regarding point 2 I understand more is better (as with many other things in life)but whats the bare minimum?
Regards
SM
@SM
It would be wise not to look at, or aim for the bare minimum requirements when you actually want to enter an 'Institute of Excellence'.
About your question, we have an assistant professor in IIT Kanpur with just one publication before joining. (But he's a really brilliant guy, FYI)
-PS
@PS
Thanks.
And I fully agree with you but just want to be sure if I am eligible or not. Because based on my experience
I think some people have a fixed set of criteria and was trying to find the Least common factor of those.
By the way can you please say he was found brilliant before recruitment(if so how,acad credentials?) or after?
Regards
SM
Dear all,
I was wondering if anyone knows about the spousal hiring policy at IISc, if the couple are applying to different departments?
Thanks.
@SM I am not sure I understand the intent of the questions. Any hiring will be subjective and based on the overall impression, including publications.
My personal stand on this matter is that publications, citations, patents etc are necessary because they serve as evidence that the candidate has done or knows to do research at a professional level. More of these bolster the evidence further. Intelligence, talent etc are all good, but they only help one to bat in the nets. One has also show evidence that one knows to translate that talent into runs, i.e., professional level research, and publications provide this evidence.
@Ankur
The intent of the question is is there a minimum number of papers to be eligible to apply for Asst Prof. in IITs.
Of late some NITS have put criteria like - 2 papers in SCI journals outside Ph.D. Work.
So just wanted to know if there is such a figure in IITs?
And publications are not always true indication of the candidates talent but I guess its the only measure feasible.
@SM
I think you can find a better solution on your own instead of expecting a right answer from this blog. Selections are not to justify your need and satisfy the criteria of recruitment in IIX. There are many places other than IIX in India where you can live a life with your basic deserving right... dignity, self-respect. Leave the IIX alone to call them self a successful supremo researcher.
@December 20, 2012 10:34 PM
You may look for an opportunity for your spouse at IIIT Bangalore (near by from IISc, Bangalore).
Merry Christmas to all!
HI IIT profs,
As far as I understand OCI/PIO's are eligible for permanent employment in IIT's as faculties. I got multiple confirmation from many people here in the blog.
Can someone please email me the MHRD circular that states this rule (Prof. Sriram your help would be hugely appreciated). My email: asengupt@hotmail.com
Thank you
Dear All,
Nice critique on university ranking system
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/comparing-harvard-apples-with-jnu-oranges/article4242153.ece?homepage=true
Best
RP
Hi all, I recently joined one of the old IIT as an AP. Looking for some tax saving tips/idea/plan from new/senior professors ?
Could anyone let us know here when received a call from IIT KGP for faculty interview.
anon@December 27, 2012 2:45 PM
I dont think the interview process in IIT-KGP has started yet. As far as, I know shortlisting has been made in departments and yet to start the interview process. But donno the current updates.
@anon above
Heard that some engineering departments finalized the dates.
@December 27, 2012 11:08 AM
If a recently joined Assistant Professor's first concern is 'how to save tax', how can we expect some good research output from them?
@December 29, 2012 3:54 AM, How come you concluded that saving tax is his(December 27, 2012 11:08 AM) first concern? I think you need to improve your logical ability a bit. Also,are you expecting a prof to behave like a Saint?
Dear Anon at December 27, 2012 11:08 AM
you can invest upto rs 100,000/year in PF/insurance etc and can get rebate on you tax liability
Anon @ December 8, 2012 1:32 PM . First of all, I admire you for taking research very seriously from the very beginning of your career. Many IITS are having programme to hire post doc, for example, check this IIT Gandhinagar link..
http://www.iitgn.ac.in/pd-fellowships.htm
As a new faculty, you may use such scheme available at your institute. Hiring a postdoc from your research fund may not be a practical idea in the beginning of your career. In my guess the new professor in the link posted by Anon @December 13, 2012 6:28 PM (https://sites.google.com/site/plasticoptoelectronicslab/home/members) might be using one of such schemes available at IIT Bombay.
Best of luck
An IISc Prof.
Lol! Anon @December 29, 2012 3:54 AM is a pure troll.
Dear Dr. Madras,
First of all many thanks for maintaining and contributing to this blog, which, by default, is a GO TO place for any prospective faculty in India. I went through pretty much all of the sections but could not gather information regarding one issue - Associate Professorship after working in industry at a mid-career position.
Almost all the advertisements from IIT's specify that one of the requirements to be appointed as an Associate Professor is to have either 3 years of experience as an AP or Senior Engineer (whatever that means, since there is no coherent designation) in industry.
As you can guess, I am in that situation where I have had 3 years of postdoc experience followed by 3+ years of industrial experience and was wondering about this scenario before making my move towards applications. Also, since I am 33 I can can apply for AP positions if Associate is out of reach - Will I be placed in Band 4 or 3? I try my best to maintain contacts with my academic partners during my time in the industry. I have one journal paper every year since I left the academia. These are not related to my day job since I cannot really publish what I do within my company.
I will be grateful if you or anyone could give me more information regarding this matter.
Best Regards,
-PT
@December 29, 2012 3:21 PM
Your approach is good. As you said, if Associate is not in possible then you may go for Assistant. I think, going directly for Associate might be tough so in that sense you are already prepared. On the other hand, IITs (most cases)go by MHRD rules, so please do not expect PB-4 at the moment. They may give you a regular position, on which you need to serve for 3 years to go from PB-3 to PB-4. This is my personal understanding.Good luck.
To Anon December 29, 2012 6:05 PM,
Thank you for your input. I understand that it is not easy to be hired directly as an Associate, although, I do not know the reasons for this. I have not come across any such profiles in the IIT faculty lists (Please correct me if I am wrong in this) that are hired this way.
Can someone who is aware of the hiring process please elaborate on this matter? Especially, what would be the main criteria a selection committee would look for in a candidate from industry to be hired as an Associate.
Best regards,
-PT
I think the second option (getting hired as an AP in PB4 band) is possible if the director support your application. I know at least one case of such an appointment in IIT Kanpur in the recent past. Getting associate professor directly is tougher in IIT system.
Good luck with your search.
Je
@PT
Associate position is tough to get from an IIT after just 6 years of experience unless you really have an awesome profile, with guiding PhD (already defended) etc.
I was in similar situation (6 years exp.) and was offered PB4 directly but post was of AP only.
You can negotiate the PB4 but ASP is tougher.
Best of luck.
@ JE and Techman,
Thank you both for your replies in this matter. Even though one can maintain academic contacts and write papers while working in industry, it is not easy to see through a full PhD as a PI.
I have, however, successfully written proposals for grants from EPSRC (European equivalent of NSF or DST) and got PhD students as interns in my company for a 6 month period under my supervision. May be I can use that a sample case.
Thanks again for your wishes and comments.
- PT
Good luck PT. Please share your experience.
@Ankur
May I request you to find a theory which will count the number of trolls in Indian academics( that may be too complex!!!)but at least in this blog?
Silence prevails the presence of ALMIGHTY for the children of LESSER GOD!
anon@December 27, 2012 6:28 PM
Do you know in which departments interview dates has been finalized in IIT-KGP?. Anybody received interview calls?
hello,
any received any communication regarding faculty selection committee dates for physics from IISER Bhopal/TVM
Thanks
Can someone who has interview experience at Engineering Departments (Mech/Aero)in IIT KGP post his experience?
Thanks
anon@January 3, 2013 6:21 PM
Did you receive interview call letter from mech/Aero department of IIT-KGP?. When is the interview?.
Though I do not have interview experience in specified engineering departments....but I have first hand information about interview experience in ECE dept of IIT-KGP. My experience says if you have received a interview call letter just 7-15days before the seminar/interview date..then do not expect a positive results. Because it might happen that you are called only for a stage show. Not only that you may even feel that you do not have money in your pocket to have your own lunch( poor children! because department distributed lunch box only to those aspirants whom they prefer/know.... ). This trend may not be only limited to ECE,IIT-KGP ....most of old/new IITs-X have more or less identical strategy. IIT-X have visiting professor option in which an aspirant may join the institute for 6 months to 1 year on temporary basis and then apply for confirmed regular position. If you are a bright and young talent and belong to children of lesser GOD you may go for visiting professor option and develop your soft skill communication (very much needed)and then apply for confirmed positive result.
GOOD LUCK and BEST WISHES.
Comment above:
Mr. "Children of a Lesser God", please do not defame the movie of the same name.
I do not think any children of lesser GOD can really defame any reputed institute if it does really hold its reputation true!
After all what a poor child can do against a mighty and reputed institute !! It was just sharing the experience and might be an extended prediction!!
@January 3, 2013 9:38 PM:
Have you got the call from any of the dept. of aero or mech?
@ January 3, 2013 6:21 PM, did you receive any call from aero/mech. Last time I attended the intrv in mech. They basically look into your capabilities to teach. So, focus was on the seminar only.
Anon above,
Could you share little more about your experience in interview at Mecg Engg, IIT KGP?
Thanks
correct!! I will not use any movie name here after!
@January 4, 2013 4:12 PM, after shortlisting the applications based on research credentials they give equal priority to all candidates at the time of interview. plz don't get carried away by the slander of some anons regarding the faculty recruitment. Even though failed last time I did not see any wrong doings by the department. It is pretty clear that they liked your research track record if you get a call. In the interview they definitely test your overall personality like if you can teach the undergrads, guide research students. So, seminar is an important component and you should work on that. Also, in the interview expert committee ask some simple questions on fundamentals in your area ( of not research only! ).
Anon above
Thank you for sharing your experience.
Also making an aspirant that al is not so bleak without Godfathers
PhD Student
Excellent evolving strategy!
Prof. Giridhar Madras,
You have not responded to many comments here..have you stopped writing?
I wish I never got permission to write in this blog! It is not a fair
game again! I do not want to be a deaf and have nervous break down.
Thank you very much.
I discovered people with deafness listen better to whispering word kindly do not pain yourself! I was only trying to find the mighty famed and kind person !
I am extremely sorry.
May I know who is i)PhD student?
ii)new faculty in IIX who is looking for post-doc fellow? and many others!
I always believed in silence (which never hurts). I never believed in "your word is your world"
You may not know that phone has a caller-id and the first time I was late in my class. By the way how did you come to know about my B.Tech students project?
Did I ask an IIX offer from you? If you could not meet my humble request, did I do any harm to your fame?
If you could not decipher my silence, is it the fair way of making me speak? That also with the help from many.
I may not know anything about evolutionary game theory. But I do not want to loose in this blog.
The people who seem to have hijacked this blog for their personal quarrel -- Can I politely ask you to go away please!
We are trying to discuss some important issues here.
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