Wednesday, May 16, 2012

IISc Admissions 2012

I have been receiving several queries on admissions to IISc. Unfortunately, I am unable to answer all emails individually. All I can say that the cutoffs for the M.E. program are usually in the 99th percentile. The last year cutoff score in GATE and other national exams for various categories to be called for interview for the Ph.D program is mentioned in the website and use this as a guideline. Emails to me regarding this year cutoffs will not help because cutoffs are decided by the number of students applying.



Update: Interview call letters for the M.Tech/M.Mgt program was posted on the website on March 30. M.E. admission is not by interview and only through GATE score. The admission letters for ME will be posted around April 20 on April 12. There are no waiting lists for ME admission, though second lists are operated occasionally. The admission is based on a ratio of offered to joining based on the experience of the last few years. For the research program, interview letters will be posted by May 12, interviews are from 1 June to 10 June. The offer letters for the research program will be online by June 18. For the UG program, the first round of offers will be made by May 15 and the second round of offers will be made on June 1.

155 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hello Sir,
please tell me what type of job opportunities are there after a MSc(engg) in IISc in Materials dept??
PhD is better than MSc in case of research but I also want to earn money as early as possible...
please guide me..

Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymous @ March 17, 2012 7:26 AM,

Then go for some software/call center job now itself than wasting your time and professor's time.

Anonymous said...

I am not qualified in GATE. Am I eligible for admission to IISc in ME or MSc or PhD programmme

Anonymous said...

@March 17, 2012 9:48 AM

that's a harsh reply. i get annoyed when pseudo iisc intellectuals answer queries such as job prospects from prospective students with replies such as join software/join call centre etc.

why are there thousands of replies to the prospective faculty threads. why not use the same reply there as if you are only interested in a job, join software forget research, etc.

i guess there are 2 diff rules for profs and for students.

if one doesn't know about the prospective job opportunities in dept X , field Y then one must keep his/her mouth shut. if one does know about the job prospects, then it is better to share with the inexperienced prospective students.

Anonymous said...

Hi Giri Sir
I am Krishna and have secured an AIR of 390 in ECE branch in GATE 2012. You said in the post that the previous year gate cut offs for IISc are there in the site. I searched for them but could not get it . Could you please provide me the link ... Or could you please tell me what are my chances of getting into IISc
Your much needed guidence needed

Thanks
Krishna

Giri@iisc said...
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Giri@iisc said...

krishna

Look at the left side above the contact details and FAQ. It is called Research programme cutoff details

Giridhar

Anonymous said...

@ March 17, 2012 3:36 PM,

yoi missed the point made by Anonymous (@March 17, 2012 9:48 AM).
If you join MSc progam you will be making 8000 for next 2 years. If you are lucky, you may end up with a journal paper and get out of IISc with flying colors.
If not you will be struck with same prof for some more time. Meanwhile your batchmates from undergrad will be making tons of money in IT job.
Also, I have also seen cases where after masters from IIT/IISc people have joined IT field which has little (almost nothing) to do with training during masters program. Such an approach will be loss to student, faculty and government (money as well as effort).

Anonymous said...

I have secured GATE rank 100. Will I get admission in your ME programme??

Govardhan said...

Sir, I would like to invite you to post your comments and opinions on academia.stackexchange.com, a community for exchanging useful ideas on the working of academe around the world.

Anonymous said...

Dear anon, theres almost no campus placements after msc. Ask anyone of your iisc friends about placements in materials this time. I can tell you that its too bad and an off campus research job is almost impossible. You will be forced to convert to phd after msc thats it. If you think you are really smart then you think about joining iisc. Not mugging books but to find a job.. else you join IT. Ultimately it doesnt make a difference. Job satisfaction and related things are lame concepts. If you are paid, you will be forced to struggle... it really doesn make a diff if you have a bettr degree fronlm a place like iisc

Anonymous said...

the usual responses from the insiders in IIX when prospective students ask questions such as what are the job prospects and salary expected after a masters or a PhD from an IIX the usual responses are that if you are interested in money join IT or do MBA. an even better response is that IIX are great institutions and once you enter into the hallowed portals of an IIX one need not worry about things like jobs.

a better approach would be if things like job prospects and expected salaries after a degree from IISc or elsewhere is made open knowledge. then cases of students joining IISc and getting into IT or doing an MBA later can be avoided and thus government funds efforts from both the profs and students can be saved.

i can think of the following cases as prospects for a student graduating from an IIX.
1) there are many jobs in the government sector, academia and in the private sector. usually means high paying jobs available in private sector.
2) there are many jobs in academia, but fewer jobs in government sector and private sector.
3) jobs available only in academia, and some few government sectors.
4) jobs available only in academia.

these cases usually mean that there isn't a drastic change in the field of work from what studies the student pursued during his/her program at IIX to his expected job.

of course the various engineering depts and science streams can be allocated into either of the 4 categories but things aren't so simple either. pursuing research in a field F1 can be much more rewarding monetarily and in terms of job offers than pursuing research in the field F2, even though F1 and F2 may belong to the same dept.

such specific information may be difficult to produce even by the profs and students at IISc. however information on general trends can be given, and it is up to the prospective students to make their career choices.

funny thing is that things like travel allowance, medical allowance blah blah are discussed into the hundreds in terms of replies in the prospective faculty threads.

Anonymous said...

Anon,

What are the job opportunities after M.E in materials engineering in IISC?

Anonymous said...

Hello Sir,
My GATE2012 score is 411 and rank is 9125. Can I apply for IISc? Please provide some guidelines to enter IISc for phd/Mtech.
Thank you

Giri@iisc said...

Last anon,

Why don't look at the link given in the post and see where you stand?

Anonymous said...

sir,
with gate rank 2143 and score 527 in EE paper,is ther any chance in getting into iisc?? (got obc reservation)

vikas said...

sir i got 58% agg in my b.tech.can i get addmission if i manage to get a valid rank .done my b.tech in cs.please help me sir.thanking you

Anonymous said...

sir can u tell me d no. seats in chemical engg. in M.S in IISC...thanks

vikas said...

waiting for your reply sir

Giri@iisc said...

Vikas: What is your GATE rank/score?
Anon: There is no M.S. program in IISc.

vikas said...

sir i want to take gate 2013.if i manage to get air below 50.can i get addmission.m fed up of my current life and wana do some serious work.i think i can do it

Brijesh said...

Mr. Giri. The Site says 21st March is the last date for online submission of application forms. But it seems they have closed the site at 12 midnight 20th March. I have done everything even finished submitting my M.Tech form. But my research form is pending(Although the application fee payment is all done). I was sure I could submit it on 21st. But the entry to the site is blocked. I am almost devastated. I have prepared for GATE for a year, I score a decent rank-(328 in EE, Gate Score 737). And I log in at 00:02, 21st March to apply and it says 'No Access'. Could you tell me what to do next. If there is something I could do. The site clearly says the last date to apply online is 21st March( no Before 21st March or anything of that sort). I request you to kindly help me out here as I have been looking forward to this Research Program for a year.

Indreesh said...

Even i had the same problem for me sir. My application is halfway done. I was waiting to get the scanned image of my passport size photo and signature from my friend. Yesterday only i got them , but after that all my effort lost in vain as the site doesn't open at all. 21st was the last date, but they did like this by 20th evening 6 pm itself. This is really annoying! Please do something about this sir. Urgent!!

Indreesh said...

By the way, the link for "The last year cutoff score in GATE and other national exams for various categories to be called for interview for the Ph.D program" : http://admissions.iisc.ernet.in/web/Content/PG/doc/Research_Programme_CutOffReport_2011.xls is not working sir. I think they have shut even that one also. Could you please provide an alternate link or mail it sir.

vikas said...

sir i want to take gate 2013.if i manage to get air below 50.can i get admission.m fed up of my current life and wana do some serious work.i think i can do it.please help me sir

Abhi said...

hello,
I'm the guy of "March 17, 2012 7:26 AM"
I'm not interested in earning a huge packages.
but I need to earn for my family. So I want to ask generally what people do after MSc? what minimum amount I can earn after MSc?
I want to explore my dept so I'm interested in doing research. Joining a industry and then get admission in IISc as a external student is also a option for me.
Please dont reply me in harsh way...but give me suggestion what else I can do..
thanks for last replies..

Abhi said...

hello,
I'm the guy of "March 17, 2012 7:26 AM"
I'm not interested in earning a huge packages.
but I need to earn for my family. So I want to ask generally what people do after MSc? what minimum amount I can earn after MSc?
I want to explore my dept so I'm interested in doing research. Joining a industry and then get admission in IISc as a external student is also a option for me.
Please dont reply me in harsh way...but give me suggestion what else I can do..
thanks for last replies..

SR said...

Dear Sir,
I have completed every procedure to apply for M.S (EE) except updating my bank deposit journal no. and today the site is not opening(TODAY IS THE LAST DATE FOR FILLING THE ONLINE APPLICATION).PLEASE KINDLY HELP ME.PLEASE SIR.Dont know what to do

Anonymous said...

hello,
I'm the guy of "March 17, 2012 7:26 AM"
I'm not interested in earning a huge packages.
but I need to earn for my family. So I want to ask generally what people do after MSc? what minimum amount I can earn after MSc?
I want to explore my dept so I'm interested in doing research. Joining a industry and then get admission in IISc as a external student is also a option for me.
Please dont reply me in harsh way...but give me suggestion what else I can do..
thanks for last replies..

Anonymous said...

@above posters

this is really sad. today is Mar 21. all i can say is IISc screws things up again :(

VIKAS said...

sir i want to take gate 2013.if i manage to get air below 50.can i get admission.m fed up of my current life and wana do some serious work.i think i can do it.please help me sir

Sreekanth said...

@Indresh , Brijesh

Even I faced the same problem all day yesterday (20/3/2012). But IISc has now acknowledged the problem and is willing to give more time to submit the applications. The page still doesnt open but the message ha changed and reads as follows:-

"Due to some technical problem, the access will be restored shortly.
Extension of time to submit the application will be provided. "

Sreekanth said...

Hi Sir,

I wanted to ask you about the Instrumentation courses. Could you please guide me about the general scope, placements etc of IN courses? Courses available to me are:
1) Instrumentation
2) Microelectronics
3) signal Processing and Automation

If you do not have the info, could u please guide me towards the right person to whom I should ask?

Anyone else who might be reading this is welcome to answer to me

Anonymous said...

"this is really sad. today is Mar 21. all i can say is IISc screws things up again :("

Why do you want to join an institute that can not even maintain a website?

Anonymous said...

"Why do you want to join an institute that can not even maintain a website?"

good point.

Anonymous said...

Students normally join IISc for the quality of education provided by faculty..

The administration and staff maintains the website, handle purchases etc. All of these are pathetic.

vikas said...

sir i want to take gate 2013.if i manage to get air below 50.can i get admission.m fed up of my current life and want do some serious work.i think i can do it.but my b.tech agg is just 58%.do u think it will hinder in admission even at a valid rank.please help me sir

Anonymous said...

sir i have got AIR 130 in
GATE 2012 in electronics & communication.In what branch & college(from IIT & IISC) i could got direct addmission

Anonymous said...

Vikas: Asking the same question 10 times is not going to help. First, qualify in gate with a rank of below 50 and then look up the eligibility criteria for various departments in IISc. Some require first class, some require second class.

Giri@iisc said...

The server has been fixed and the deadline has been extended till tomorrow.

Giridhar

Anonymous said...

Sir when will the interview call letters come for ME and MSc?

Anonymous said...

Hi all

I am an ex-IISc student. I don't want to get into arguments here. But sincerely, I wish to give an advice to all IISc aspirants.

Positive thing about IISc is that its course work is really good and research is also better than IITs (though things depend on group).

Placements are not good at all. IISC lacks dedicated placement cell. They don't welcome companies. Also, if you are planning to go abroad for PhD, IIT B has much better record. This is generally true about most of the departments. If you search previous year Prof. Giri's blogs on admissions, Things will be more clear to you.

Acc. to me, you must give a second thought before joining IISC. Contact to the seniors in the department. Ask them your queries, then, take a decision.

Please, don't reply to my comment. Just wanted to share my opinion with juniors

Good Luck!!!!

Giri@iisc said...

March 21, 2012 10:56 PM:

There are no interviews for ME.

Interviews for M.Sc(Engg) and Ph.D are held in first week of June. Interview call letters will be available online to the candidates usually from the first/second week of May.

Giridhar

Anonymous said...

"Students normally join IISc for the quality of education provided by faculty..

The administration and staff maintains the website, handle purchases etc. All of these are pathetic."

haha. nice try. quality of education /research done by most faculty is also sub-par and can be categorized as "pathetic" too.

IISc is massively overhyped, but due to shortage of opportunities for students wishing to pursue research in India, they end up joining IISc. no other reason.

Anonymous said...

"yatha raja tatha praja"

Quality of students and faculty are similar..majority of both are pathetic.

In this section, you will find students saying that the faculty are pathetic..in the other section "for prospective faculty", you will find people questioning the quality of students and say most are pathetic.

Anonymous said...

"
"yatha raja tatha praja"

Quality of students and faculty are similar..majority of both are pathetic.

In this section, you will find students saying that the faculty are pathetic..in the other section "for prospective faculty", you will find people questioning the quality of students and say most are pathetic."


fantastic. pretty much sums up the state of research in india. students and profs, atleast most of them, are actually quite pathetic!!

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,
I have applied for ME in Materials Science. I got AIR 11 in MT. I am also confident of getting in to IOCL.
Which one should i opt for? I was very much inclined towards research until i found dat d salaries offered are low and that iisc has no placements. Keeping long term interests which should i opt for ?
I hope i get a reply, im very much worried abt it.

Anonymous said...

Sir, regarding Materials Science branch, is IISC better or IITB to go for research in US or Germany.

Giri@iisc said...

Last two anons:

Talk to senior students in materials

Giridhar

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,
I want to do MS/MTech in Mech. Engg. My aim is to do some research, get some publications and go abroad for PhD. However, I got a poor GATE result - AIR1411, score 623/1000. My CGPA was 6.6/10 in NIT.
Your post http://giridharmadras.blogspot.in/2009/03/marks-and-gate.html ended with a shocking revelation. Do you think I can get admission to a research program in IISc?

Giri@iisc said...

IISc always required a high GATE score for M.Sc (Engg) and M.E. However, IISc used to admit non-GATE students for Ph.D. This has been stopped effective this year.

pooja said...

Sir you are doing a wonderful job here.I have a query.I am 2011 pass out in cs with just 57% agg in my b.tech.I just qualified gate 2012.I want to give gate 2013 with full preparation
and i think i can score well.my question is that if a manage to get in top 50(just imagine).Can i get into IISC.I want to go into research field.All i mean to say if i prove in gate will they consider me apart my poor academic record.plz help me.thanking you

Giri@iisc said...

Last anon:

You have asked the same question several times. Someone else has replied, "Asking the same question 10 times is not going to help. First, qualify in gate with a rank of below 50 and then look up the eligibility criteria for various departments in IISc. Some require first class, some require second class."

As said, some require first class and some second class. Read the eligibility criteria.

gm_krishna said...

Sir , I got AIR 325 in Gate -2012 in CS. I belong to general category.I applies to IISC . Can I get a call from it?? pls reply me

gm_krishna said...

Sir , I got AIR 325 in Gate -2012 in CS. I belong to general category.I applies to IISC . Can I get a call from it?? pls reply me

gm_krishna said...

Sir , I got AIR 325 in Gate -2012 in CS. I belong to general category.I applies to IISC . Can I get a call from it?? pls reply me

gm_krishna said...

Sir , I got AIR 325 in Gate -2012 in CS. I belong to general category.I applies to IISC . Can I get a call from it?? pls reply me

rahul said...

no u wont get ME.try for m.tech.m.e cut off is 50 something.

Anonymous said...

Sir, its nice that you have finally opened up a much needed Admissions section on your blog.

I was looking over some of the cutoffs for 2011 (will be giving my GATE in 2013) and noticed that while ME rank cut offs fall below AIR - 50 almost every year, the Research Program cut offs fall at around 500-550 AIR (I am assuming the listed number in the spreadsheet is rank and not GATE score). I am a little confused by this. Why is it that there is more favor towards taking up ME and so small interest in taking up MSc(engg). They both seem like on the same level just a different approach to doing masters. While ME is more course based, M.Sc is more research based. Is it that IISc M.Sc program is worse than ME? Or is this drop in AIR due to the fact that students in general are not interested in taking up research based courses? As a simple comparison, if someone is getting a ME course and MSc course offer simultaneously which one would be better intrinsically?

Or is it about placements? Do commercial and government research labs prefer a M.Sc over a ME? Or is it all about being from a good institute and having a good publication history?

-Paresh

Anonymous said...

One more thing, you keep on suggesting that one should talk to seniors before they take up a course in IISc. But how is one supposed to reach said seniors? Is there a central place where at least there email IDs are listed so one can try reaching that way. Because it is most definitely not possible for everyone to have a contact there.

-Paresh

Giri@iisc said...

The cutoffs given in the website is the GATE score and not rank.

Or is this drop in AIR due to the fact that students in general are not interested in taking up research based courses?

Yes.

As a simple comparison, if someone is getting a ME course and MSc course offer simultaneously which one would be better intrinsically?

ME, in general. For the simple reason that it is a fixed term course and one can complete it in 2 years. The research course may take 3 years.

Contacting seniors means emailing a few people already in IISc and asking them. some will definitely reply.

Anonymous said...

Sir,

When does IISc usually give call letter to ME candidates who are selected? How do they intimate people?

Thanks

Anonymous said...

Sir,
Does the chemical engineering department have a specialization in process design ?
Modelling and simulations has been mentioned as a research area. Does this include industrial applications too ?
Thanking you..

Giri@iisc said...

When does IISc usually give call letter to ME candidates who are selected?

ME is around May and research around June 25.


How do they intimate people?

By email. You have to log in and download the letter.

Does the chemical engineering department have a specialization in process design ?

No.

Modelling and simulations has been mentioned as a research area. Does this include industrial applications too ?

No.

Anonymous said...

Sir,
I have not done any research in my engineering or even presented any paper. I dont know whether I can ask like this. But in case I get a seat in IISc ME and if im ready to work hard will I be able to cope up over there? Will the faculty guide us through?
Even I am from your department Sir..
Thanks

Anonymous said...

For Anon@ March 27, 2012 10:48 PM: Check out NCL Pune's PhD program. Several faculty members work on process design, and application of modeling/simulation to industrial problems. Sketchy details are available at http://www.ncl-india.org/PhDAdmission/Phd_admission_webpage.htm and an incomplete list of courses and faculty profiles at https://sites.google.com/site/nclpgrpe/home/files/PGRPE_CE_NCL_2011.pdf?attredirects=0
Both the site and the document will be updated as soon as interview/application deadlines are finalized. before anyone else comments, I agree that this is a good example of the terrible websites that are discussed in another thread in this blog.

C

Anonymous said...

ME Materials placement is not at all impressive. people could get through only low profile companies ... a very few high profile companies turned up but none of them cleared... but do not think that you may clear it if you join because their expectations are much more than an ME can give. The usual TVS, Bharat Forge and Midhani come and offer 5 LPA job. If you are not from a good college, try your luck... else i am sure that you have a better offer ! reminding again, if you want to join job, not IISc... its too bad for that unless you have smart circuit branches... at least a chemical. :) only loosers bookworms join ME Materials engg who are not good at placement activities in bringing companies... and even if you have plans for an Engineering PhD and "join industry", IISc wont be able to help you atleast in Meta. you may have to go for postdoc. PhD placement in Meta is ZERO!

j s said...

hello sir

how are the placements for msc in electronics systems. How many core companies visit the campus. I hav heard there is no placement cell in iisc.

Anonymous said...

Hello sir,

After talking to many people (students of IIXs included but not IISc) I find that the general conscientious is research in Indian institutes is sub par. They usually recommend that one must go for an American or other universities in developed countries to do "actual real research". I do not have anything against people taking up a good education for a good placement, but is it so that a person getting into an IIX would still not be able to get exposure to research? Because if that is true, it is quite depressing.

-R

Anonymous said...

I heard that one can do Ph.d in US without doing M.S Does it take just the 4 years to complete as the usual ph.d after M.S or more?

Anonymous said...

Is it wise to do a Ph.d abroad after m.tech in IISc ? Is there any advantage of getting into a top US university through iisc ?

Giri@iisc said...

One can do direct Ph.D after BE/BTech in IISc also. Recently, two of my students finished their Ph.D after B.Tech in less than four years and went abroad for one year. Now, they have returned as faculty in IITs. Thus, at the age of 27, they are faculty of IIT.

Regarding doing Ph.D after M.Tech in IISc. It is difficult to get into the top 20 school with financial aid without a tag of IIT/IISc and, therefore, degree in IIX helps and also helps evaluate whether one is really interested in research.

Giridhar

Anonymous said...

Secured gate score of 684 in CS
is there any chance of me gettin ME

Anonymous said...

Sir,
some IITs are declaring their Mtech lists in April 2nd week and fee is to be paid by apr 18th.. I hope that IISc ME list would be out before or atleast at that time..
You have mentioned that " the letters for ME will be posted by 20 april" will the list be out before that ?

Anonymous said...

Dear March 17, 2012 7:26 AM,

I will explain the possibilities you can have after MSc/ME and you can take a decision. before that I want to make sure one thing. in Materials Engg, in IISc, MSc Engineering always outperformed ME both in placements and further higher studies... you can verify it by group pages.

1. Materials Engg does not prefer MSc Engg. The admission is heavily in the hand of professors and they never prefer MSc engg. it may be because MSc engg people come with an aim to go abroad and by the end of 2.5 - 3 years they are able to produce a good thesis which is ok for places like Stanford and Cornel. The so called big shot professors would obviously not support this because they rate their status equal to Cornel!! ( this is not a general case... but in materials, of course). they claim that MSc engg is 3/4th of PhD and the effort is same. So if you join a professor, he will force you to convert to Phd to extract maximum work out of you. go through the number of MS in electrical, Aero and chemical and meta and understand what I meant.

2. The environment in meta is not professonal. students look like psychic and they surely are under the sword of professors. There is no guarantee that you will get a supporting professor like Giri. Sometimes, they wouldn even give you a proper recommendation due to ego problems. There are very few professors in Meta with professonal attitude. most of them treat students secondary.But as I said, there are some real good people too. getting under them is very tough as everyone would want to join them.

3. You may not get your choice of research. if your profile is slightly down, you will end up with professors with no relation to what you studied for four years. remember, materials engg in IISc is multidisciplinary.

3. Placements are unpredictable.
2007,2011 had good placements. 2008 and 2012 are really poor. 2012 is poor when most of the other engineering branches performed really good. ME students somehow forgot to bring in quality placements when they were mugging books. some smart ME students tried to get into US universities, but sadly no one could get a single offer till now as the funding in US is really bad this time.

4. do not expect a good career from IISc. this place is for science students. they are trained in a different way than engineers. IISc admit only top 1%. but the 1% under perform their pals at IITs even MTechs are Matkas at IITs!!!

6. Prof Giri's students completed their research in less than four years and joined IITs...
well, Prof Giri is a famous man in IISc and in India. He is known for his passion and attitude toward research. each of his student go with so many research publications with them that would take them to good places. thats a different case. we cant generalize that either.

7. I would suggest you to try MS in mech or Aero or in Chemical. the job profile is much better there. if you really want to study meta, join mech professors doing materials research and take courses in meta dept.

Anonymous said...

Dear sir,
Your blog is wonderful, 2 years before i came for the interivews in iisc but i didnt got it.I know that only top students will pass through the interviews in iisc. Any way i believe that iisc is a wonderful place to get good knowledge.Sir please keep up your good work..

Anonymous said...

I am sure that the above anon has never been in chemical engineering at IISc.

Anonymous said...

hi sir,

nice to find a blog on IISc

I had applied for M Mgmt course and have got interview call on 16th April. could you please share some insights about the Management studies department , its industry intervention and placement scenarios.

Thanks

Anonymous said...

Respected Giri Sir

YOUR VERY MUCH NEEDED ADVICE REQUIRED
I am rahul from NIT Jamshedpur (2010 batch) have got an AIR 390, gate score 747 in EC branch and have got an interview call letter for Electronics systems engg (earlier CDET) dated 16-04-2012.

I wanted to ask that what are the chances of selection of an AIR 390 in general ... I think I won't ne doing PhD. I just want to get a higher pay package in a reputed MNC like say Intel / TI. So would it be good for me to pursue MTech in ESE (earlier CDET)from IISc
Waiting for your response
Thanking you sir
yours sincerely
Rahul

Anonymous said...

"April 8, 2012 3:39 PM "

You seem to be a fan of Prof. Giri. What makes you think he is famous in India?

Ankur Kulkarni said...

To the many students asking questions here, this is just a suggestion.

Please articulate your questions with carefully constructed complete sentences, without spelling errors, unnecessary capitalisations, excessive question marks, exclamations etc. Most of you have secured high ranks in GATE and are well qualified; your writing should reflect this. Also, don't beg for answers and ensure that you don't sound rude or casual.

All this will significantly improve your chances at getting replies here, and later at getting admission and jobs too.

Anonymous said...

all hail the ankur kulkarni i say

Anonymous said...

I don't understand the comments of a few people who talk only about research and not about the financial part associated with a degree.
Research has to be definitively funded and if the person who does research is not funded why should he do research at first place? he has to survive first.
I strongly believe that IISc might have some faults but the bigger fault is elsewhere. Industrial Research is something which brings lot of funds. Concentrating only on breakthrough research is not going to help.
Also I won't be wrong if i say industries themselves dont' spend adequate amt on research

Anonymous said...

Dear sir,

I am interested in knowing R&D jobs which one can get after ME in chemical engineering in IISc.
Is it good to do ME in chem engg to get a R&D job ?

pandu said...

hello sir
i got gate rank of air 107(Mechanical) and gate score of 826.i belong to OBC .you said that results for ME could be posted by april 20.iam very happy about it.since this year PSUs are recruiting through gate score if some students cancel their admission will they be filled again.please reply.

M.S.Bhaskar said...

@ Anonymous April 8, 2012 3:39 PM

You are right about the points you made about some people of our dept. ( Materials Engg. )

M.S.Bhaskar
Ph.D student
Dept. of Materials Engg.

Anonymous said...

Bhaskar,

Don't you think such people are found in every department in every IIT or IISc. What is different in your department?

gupta

M.S.Bhaskar said...

@gupta

i comment only on the basis of what I experienced in my dept. and not what people say about other depts or institutes.

Anonymous said...

Frustrated soul (M.S.B)

Anonymous said...

@M.S.Bhaskar

I would like to know, how do you say that chemical engineering is better?
I am not a student in IISc Chem Engg Dept. Its only that i aspire to be one among them.
What kind of a job can we expect if I do M.E. in chem engg.

Anonymous said...

@ChemE seniors

I observed from the iisc chem engg page that placements (i mean r&d and some technical job rather than tvs) were very good until 2009 . But later not good placements.
Why don't companies like Shell India Tech Centre, IOC R&D, some majors like Dow chemicals,Advanced Refining LLC ,and other companies come. They really are very good companies.
Kindly put some light on it.
I believe its not only research and acads, most of us beleive in research and industry also.
May be if these companies come to IIsc , It can rise above IITB and other iits.

M.S.Bhaskar said...

@anonymous April 11, 2012 6:10 PM

I never commented on Chem Engg. placements. Must be someone else. redirect your question to the right person.

Anonymous said...

Hello Sir,
Im the anon who posted on April 7, 2012 10:48 PM, regarding the release of list. I have recieved admission into M E Chemical Engineering.
Thank You Sir.

Anonymous said...

Professor,
If the number of students offered seats in ME courses is indeed more than the actual number of seats so as to account for the usual acceptance rate, would it mean that a few will be left with out a seat if more than the usual number of applicants accept the offer?
I know it is a bit dumb of me to expect such a mess up from an institution like IISc, its just that the seat I have been offered matters a lot to me

Giri@iisc said...

All students offered admission can join. Therefore, in some years, there will be more students than the capacity and in some years, there will be less than the capacity.

ME Chemical Engineering has 12 seats in general category. We make 18 offers. Some years, 14 join while in some years, 10 join..does not matter if all 18 join!

Anonymous said...

Thank you for your prompt reply, Professor.
Anon-April 12, 2012 11:17 PM

Anonymous said...

"There are no waiting lists for ME admission. The admission is based on a ratio of offered to joining based on the experience of the last few years."

IISc waves its irrational magic wand yet again.

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,
Please tell when the ME result for Civil Engineering will be declared for 2012.

Thank you very much!

geo said...

Sir

I received an offer letter for joining ME in Computer Science & Engineering. I have been asked to send my original GATE score card to IISc by post. Is it necessary to send the original score card itself? What if it gets lost while sending? Also, I am a bit undecided whether to join IISc or IIT-B. I won't be able to join IIT-B if I send my original scorecard to IISc.
Please reply.

Anonymous said...

Dear geo,

It is mandatory to send the card in original. There is no point thinking what if it is lost. What if your entire envelop is lost and it never reaches IISc? What if it reaches late and you are denied admission? You can have endless questions and possibilities like this.

And of course you have to make up your mind whether you want to join IISc or IITB. You can't say yes to both and later deny rendering the seat vacant for whole 2 year program. That's the point of asking to submit the card in original.

Anonymous said...

@ Rahul and similar ones,

Everybody at IISc knows that it is not a crime to crave for good salaries and people often go for higher studies for enhancement in salaries. But do you expect the professors in the panel to entertain you for the sake of your salary hike? The professors are very happy seeing their students placed in great places. But for god's sake, think before putting the crap of - I do not want to do PhD, I want higher salary, I am not very much interested in research etc etc. What the hell do you think you want to convey to them that they are employment agents and once in a while they can do their research also.

This is for all those who aspire to be at IISc. IISc is a great place just to be in. Only a handful lucky people are blessed enough to experience that heaven. So if you want to be there, you have to contribute to what has made it so (and I mean research by that).

Anonymous said...

With the amount of good and bad stuff getting posted here, Prof. Giri should think about adding a more sophisticated commenting system than blogger default. maybe disqus or something like that, which can allow upvote or downvote and sort according to different parameters. Just a thought though, it is his blog.

PKBang said...

In what field do I need to hold an undergraduate degree to be eligible for M.Sc. in Aerospace or PhD in Physics? Can one get into the PhD program after Bachelors?

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir,

I have decided to join IISc, materials engineering. Do I have to apply for hostel accommodation in website before joining (i.e. before july 27) ?

Anonymous said...

Hello Sir,
It is said that BARC sends people to study Ph.d in the institute. But I dont understand why its DGFS scheme doesnt cover IISc.

Anonymous said...

Sir,

Is it possible to get an MSc in physics from DU or an IIT after BE/BTech in Electronics and Communication? Any info about this would be much appreciated.

Anonymous said...

Adding to the above question: I ask this because most of the PhD programs have Masters in Physical/Chemical/Mathematical science as criteria.

-Naresh

Anonymous said...

Good Morning,
Any one please tell about the ME admission results declaration(Civil Engineering.

Thanks.

Shrikant said...

Sir, i had applied for the DESE(CEDT prev)course and cleared the written test for the same. I appeared for the interviews held on 17/18 april. I would like to know the tentative dates around when the interview results would be declared. Kindly help.

Anonymous said...

Hello Sir
I want to join ME in Computer Science at IISc. I am partially colour blind. Will this be a problem for admission? I have seen a column for colour vision in the medical examination form.
Thank you.

Anonymous said...

dear professor,
Any institute is ranked based on the quality of students it has apart from the faculties. While having chat with many of the current students I found that students are preferring IITB even when they have offer from IISc. I also talked with chemical students . So if all the toppers in gate start preferring IITB then how can one still rate IISc as the best ?
P.S : Im just asking what a student had asked me .

Anonymous said...

@ April 21, 2012 3:55 PM

Well the thing is, many top rankers i know are preferring IISc over IITB.... but neither of our cases can be generalised to say "all toppers are preferring ABC over XYZ". Mathematically speaking our sample space is too small to be used for a satistical study. Besides its completely a personal call, whether to join IISc or IITB (I, for one, chose the former).
And lastly. I really believe its about time we stop discussing which institute is better than the other. Its childish and totally unexpected off people who are supposed to a part of India's best technical and research institutes, or aspire to be so. Each institute has its own merits and demerits.

Anonymous said...

sir,
I have to ask regarding the UG admissions that given the last date for submitting the application is 7 april when are the first set of offers expected to be made.can you give me a tentative date
THANK YOU.

Anonymous said...

@ April 21, 2012 3:55 PM

I completely agree with the reply of anon 7:53. Adding to that, it may not be obvious, but one needs to know the nature of the institutes. IISc and IITB are completely opposite as far as their vision towards research is concerned. It seems that you are having an impression that most of the top rank holders are joining IITB because it is better than IISc. That is far from reality. The reality is that IITB is far better than IISc for getting highly paid jobs and that is the way all the faculty look at research and training at IITB. It is only and only the greed for more and more money that is making students prefer IITB. Further, since IITK does not seem to appear in picture at all, heads up for those who are not aware (or pretend not to be aware), IITK is the only institute in India which is somewhere close to IISc when it comes to research. I would say that a candidate really interested in research would strive to get into IITK if he does not happen to get into IISc.

FYI: From a personal conversation with a friend at IITB, "IISc people know about IITK faculty and not IITB faculty because IITK is the place from where real research comes out apart from IISc!"

-IISc alumnus

Anonymous said...

Can anyone please inform me on the questions I asked on April 19, 2012 9:47 PM and 9:56 PM? It will be much appreciated. I have tired that DU site and the IIT JAM brochure but they don't give any concrete info about the case of BE/BTech students((at least for now)).

-Naresh

xxxx said...

Dear sir,I have gate score of 374,branch is ceramic Engg,do I have chance to get Msc or phd(Engg)

xxxx said...

DEar Sir,I have gate score of 374, branch is ceramics Engg,do I have chance to get Msc(Engg)or phd in materials Engg deptt,belongs to sc category

Satyajit Bhadange said...

Reserch Cutoff for 2012 is declared at IISC site.


Does anyone got the interview call letter.

According to Cutoff I must get call letter but i dont see any call letter link against my Application Status

Anonymous said...

@satyajit: even i cleared the cut off but there is no interview call letter for me too. does clearing the cut off ensure that we'l get an interview call letter? i'm confused.

Anonymous said...

Someone kindly help me regarding hostel application. 6500 caution deposit for hostel was a part of DD which i have paid for admission. But the iisc hostel link says i have to take dd for hostel application which also has added 6500 as caution deposit. Anyone pls reply. I have been admitted fo M.E. Is der any deadline for filling hostel appl. form? nothing is mentioned in the web site.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone received IISER Pune Physics Interview call?? Can anyone share IISER Pune interview experiences

Anonymous said...

no idea about IISER Pune Physics.

Anonymous said...

Respected Giri Sir ,
i would like to ask whether the research cutoffs for MSc courses will be revised or not,as according to previous year it has jumped up to +50 in every dept.

regards
Apurv

Giri@iisc said...

Research cutoffs based on GATE will not be changed. Some departments have changed, some have not changed. This is based on number of applicants to the particular department.

The call letters for interviews will be posted by next week.

Giridhar

anupam1031 said...

Respected Sir,

My name is ANUPAM A H.I am a Btech passout from NIT CALICUT,in ELECTRICAL AND ELECTRONICS ENGG.I would like to pursue higher studies in the area of PHYSICS.I have applied for RESEARCH PROGRAMME in physics,and cleared the cut off.I would like to to know how the pattern of the interview would be...

Anonymous said...

Hi,

A query here. Will call-letter be given to those who have the same marks as the cut-off (say the cut-off for Instrumentation is 42, and I have scored 42 as well, will I get a call letter?)
I'll be grateful if you could please address my query.

Anonymous said...

Respected Sir
thanks for your timely reply ,I meant to ask that the cutoff for all the departments are more than the previous year cutoff,but since i took the help of those cutoff, i am lagging behind by some in my preferred departments. In this way I'm not going to get any seat,what should i do.

Regards
Apurv

DINA said...

Respected Sir,
I have been offered MTech Machine Design in IIT Madras as well as in IIT Bombay... among these two which one is better in terms of research... I belong to Mechanical Department... I want to convert my MTech into PHD later wards... I really don't have much idea regarding the IIT's and don't know anyone in those intsitutes... Please help me sir....

Anonymous said...

sir
I am a mechanical engg student I have got admission in mtech Aerospace propulsion in iit bombay.
I want to pursue a career in research and pursue a phd.

sir I wanted to know about the prospects of getting a good phd admit in US universities after completing mtech from iit bombay
or should i work hard for getting admission into Msc courses at IITM/IISc.

Anonymous said...

This question is regarding IISC UG admissions. Is it true that IISC is planning to increase the intake this year? How many non KVPY students are offered admission approximately? In specific, how many from AIEEE are called for counselling?

Yash said...

This question is regarding IISC UG admissions.
Will all the KVPY scholars be called for counselling as it was done last year? Sir, Please guide.

Giri@iisc said...

Depending on how many KVPY scholars accept admission for the first counselling, the remaining will be offered. Look at

http://www.iisc.ernet.in/ug/news.htm

The Solitary Reaper said...

I did my M Tech (Mech) from a central university and has a research experience of 3 years from a DST-SERC project.My findings were not too encouraging but the learning from the study and development was absolutely immense.I would have done better if i had an more experienced person with me .That is why i wanted to join IISC. I am gate qualified (not a good score , but appeared just to get into IISc) and would like to do my Phd there.It is very sad that IISc took Rs 600 from me just to check and reject the form.I think this prejudice on GATE Score is dangerous and at least IISC should give us a chance to present what we know (Thank god IITK gives you that chance-That is exactly why lot of people rank them better than IISC).At least IISc should give the money back if students are not called for the interview.Nevertheless, Dear sir , you are doing a good work .Keep it up .

Anonymous said...

Dear Sir

I appeared in DAT 2012 for admission to M.Des programme in CPDM but could not clear it. I also didnt get call for M.Sc.(Engg) programme at CPDM. Now I have to appear in M.Sc.(Engg) interview in materials engineering department. Since I have a high interest in product designing methodologies, I would like to know if I join materials engineering dept for M.Sc(Engg)it is possible to work in collabration with CPDM. Also, how well will be the choice of M.Sc.(Engg) programme in materials engineering.

Thank You

suman said...

Dear Sir,
I am suman and have got interview call letter for Ph.D. by INSPIRE fellowship entry mode.I would just like to have some guidance regarding the 3 rounds of interview as to how to prepare and what needs to be focussed upon.Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Is IISc better or BARC? BARC assures me a job at the end of a year after their OCES training. But IISc does not assure a job .

Anonymous said...

Is MIT better or BARC? BARC assures me a job at the end of a year after their OCES training. But MIT does not assure a job .

Anonymous said...

@Anon May 29, 2012 9:43 PM

Another IISc fan.

Anonymous said...

To all AGAINST IISC,
IISC is proven ...but u are a just one among billions
stop taking it 'head on' or create doubts in minds of prospective students @ IISC
u may be far too intelligent (all sadistic guys)... so plzzz doze off 2 US n earn or 2 ur fav,like IIT B ...
so while u work out in dollars the others 'll surely dive into what IISC expects them to do...

Anonymous said...

IISc rocks. IISc is great in its own way.

ahmed said...

Hello sir.

I got a call from IISc SERC for PHd interview for August-2012 intake.
I want to know whats the ratio of students they finally shortlist for PHd out of the candidates called for interview Or is there a round figure.

Anonymous said...

I have heard that some IIsc profs want their research assistants, old ME students to be admitted for PhD. Isn't it unfair. What if some one files an RTI?

Anonymous said...

sir, When will the list of selected students for the research program be put up? Will it be sent by email or put up on the website? Thank you sir.

Giri@iisc said...

The selected research students will be informed by email. The list of selected students are put by some departments on their website. We expect this will happen next Friday.

vishu said...

@Anon June 9, 2012 10:08 AM

Its hard to judge anyone's research capability based on a 30 mins interview. So if a professor finds that a research assistant who may have worked with him/her for some time is good, I do not see anything wrong in taking them for phd - provided they meet other criteria. Based on what I saw this year in the interviews, the interview process is just as rigorous, perhaps more so, for a student who has already some experience because the panel typically expects them to know better than others.

Sreejith Raveendran said...

Hello Sir,
I have got M.Tech admission at IIT Gandhinagar(Electrical) and got over my M.sc interview at IISc.WHICH ONE SHOULD I PREFER(If i get M.Sc at IISc) as many are saying its better to join old prestigious institutes like IISc or Old IITs even if its M.S than to join NEW IIT.Please guide me sir.Also ,What are the prospects after doing M.Sc?Thank You.

Anonymous said...

At IISc, there z no preference for old students rather interview wil b harder dan others. Der z no partiality in selection here.

Anonymous said...

@Sreejith,
There are subtle differences between an Mtech and an MSc. An MSc(Engg) at IISc requires less number of courses to be taken and prepares you for a career in research, you should take it if you are more inclined towards research - either in the industry(R&D) or academics (PhD). Compare both the degrees in terms of content, and take the one that matches more with your interests. You could talk to students at both the institutes to get more idea of the specialization.

When it comes to comparing IIT Gandhinagar and IISc, IISc definitely has an advantage of already being an established institution of repute and the exposure that you can get at IISc to the various dimensions of science is unmatchable. So, even after comparing the two degrees, if you are not sure which one more matches your interest, go for IISc. Wish you good luck.

Anonymous said...

Sir,

Have the offer letters for PhD candidates been emailed/put up on the admissions website? I can see some departments have put up a provisional list of candidates. When is the final list expected to be available?
Thanks and regards,
A PhD candidate

Anonymous said...

Has anybody got offer letter for research from the admissions section?

Giri@iisc said...

Offer letters for research will be posted either tomorrow or on Monday (18 June)

Anonymous said...

Thank you very much sir.

Anonymous said...

When will the admissions to UG program end?

Anonymous said...

Hello Sir,
I gave an interview in electronics department for phd programme. Please let me know when we will cum to know about the selection

Anonymous said...

hello sir,
sir i m selected in iisc for ME- mechanical through gate-2012.
and i was send my original gate score card , but i dont recieve any recieved conformation msg.
my application no is 12308237.
sir plz check it.
thank you.