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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 400 of 683 Newer› Newest»Thank you very much for your reply Prof. Sriram regarding the interview.
Wish you all a Happy & Fulfilling New Year ahead.
Happy new year. Many thanks to prof. Giri and iitmsriram for hosting this blog. I have been following this since last 5-6 months and it has been quite useful.
Recently, I have a got an offer from one of the new IITs. They have asked me to join till July this year. However, I want to continue my current postdoc (in abroad) at least for 6 more months. So, I wonder what should be the procedure for asking 6 more months extension and is it possible to get such extension? Does anyone else had a similar situation?
Thanks in advance!
@iitmsriram
Prof Sriram, are the shortlisting for Winter 2017 faculty recruitment at IIT-M completed (for all departments)? Can I expect that the interview for all departments to be completed in January?
We are not seeing any updates at the recruitment site; it will be nice if you can let us know what's happening.
Thanks
Hello Everyone ,
Many thanks to the creator of this blog. It's very useful.
My question is what is norm/intension of interviewing for assistant professor at newest IIT ? I mean, as they need many people who can join urgently/immediately, what kind of things selection committee is looking during the interview (just research or just teaching or both) ? How long (on an average) it takes before end ? Does here anyone has a recent experience of interview for IIT Goa ? If so, can you please share it ?
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Why the number of female faculties in iix's very less?
@ Anon, less is an understatement. Some departments do not have any women in core faculty especially the new IIT's. They have a few adjunct faculty or visiting faculty. This makes me wonder how can one expect an unbiased decision if the committee itself is male dominated. One of the interviews i attended had just one woman and there were 7 men on the committee. I have heard some friends who were interviewed by a skewed committee and asked questions that made assumptions of choices based on gender or suggesting they would lose this passion over time.
It is sad to see such under-representation.
https://www.braingainmag.com/why-are-there-no-women-at-the-iits.htm This is 3 years old but still paints a picture
how tough is it to get a faculty position in iix's
Have any IITs received the 7PC salaries and arrears?
MHRD has not released funds for payment of 7PC salary or arrears. However, new IITs can most likely manage this within their existing grants and I hear some have accordingly implemented. IITM just got the go ahead yesterday to pay salaries (not arrears) as that can be met during current fiscal year with minimal additional funding, arrears not being disbursed now.
Anyone would like to share their experience on iit Goa/Dharwad interviews held at iit Bombay held on second week November for EE stream?
At my new IIT, basic pay is being given according to 7th pay commission but HRA and TA is not revised yet.
NewIIT Prof
Dear Prof Sriram, How candidates with more than 3 years post PhD experience are treated in terms of salary. For instance, one with 5 years experience and the one with 3 years experience, will be offered same salary?
Thank you.
Hi All, I heard that during faculty candidates interviews, selection committee is more focused on basics/fundamentals. Is it more more like a discussion kind of (oral communication) or asking the definitions or more like asking to derive a specific theorem/law from specific subject. Is black board is also involved?
I feel it is really difficult to remember all the concepts from undergraduate courses that's been studied a decade ago and now mostly doing research in a very specific topic.
Can someone share their experiences in this regard.
Thank you.
To Anon @12.22 Jan 14 , It depends a lot on the institute and the selection committee. I interviewed at a couple of places were questions were formulated in a very vague manner and the committee members expected a specific answer. Most importantly if there are more that 5 people on the selection committee they tend to talk among themselves and not give you time to even think (to collect your ideas) . They just want an answer blurted out. In this kind of an interview, formula was asked and one of the interviewers wasn't happy if i could think logically the terms involved. Also when one didnt agree with answer I gave they didnt want to discuss it further and just told that is not correct. Get used to people grimacing in interviews and talking to each other, in the name of helping you providing more keywords that are just confusing.
On the other hand, I also had interviews where it was more a discussion and not trying to prove they know better than you. They were genuinely interested in the research work and had questions.
I feel what I infer, could be wrong from my interviews were that if the committee values teaching more than research they might have unrealistic expectations of how a course should be handled and the interview tends to be like in the first case. If research is the focus then it tends to go more like a discussion. I have been given the advice of reading undergraduate textbooks before the interview. But I have tried its impossible to go through courses we did in 4 years in even months and further, these interviews barely give you 2 weeks notice. I would suggest may be go through some GATE question bank if you have time.
Where can I find a detailed guideline on what can be considered as consumables as per DST?
The project format does not provide any funding for equipment and contingency.
Is it possible to include spare parts in consumable?
@anon 1:36 PM Thank you for sharing your experiences. It will be helpful.
For NewAP@NewIIT,
DST do not care what you buy as a consumable. It is your institute who will process the bill for consumable. DST will ask only utilization certificate and statement of expenditure where you do not need to specifically write what you have bought.
So, do not worry and buy whatever you want as a consumable. There are ways of buying from the project which I cannot write here in open forum. You will learn with experience.
iit.fac Thanks for your answer.
That leaves me even at a tighter situation.
Being a new IIT the institute account/audit are not well aware of the loopholes/provisions.
Moreover, they are really faculty unfriendly!
Maybe to save themselves from any future trouble.
First they will say that there is severely faculty crunch in technical public academic institutions in India. Most of the professors are loaded with too many PhD students
Then once you enter into PhD, and plan of moving into academia after your PhD, suddenly they start shouting about the fierce competition. What an irony?
First of all they will say that there is severe faculty crunch/shortage in technical public academic institutions in India. Most of the professors are loaded with too many PhD students.
Then once you enter into PhD, and plan of moving into academia after your graduate, suddenly they start shouting about the fierce competition. What an irony?
Either there can be huge requirement or it will be saturated like US academia. It can't be both.
Dear Prof. Sriram,
I applied for the faculty recruitment at IIT Madras Winter 2017 recruitment. At the recruitment website, a link mentions that we can know the status, however, there is no "Shortlist Status" navigation button, after I log in.
Should I assume that my application is not shortlisted? Are the seminars/interviews already completed for the various departments for the Winter 2017 round?
If not, when will I know the shortlisting outcome?
Thanks,
Anon Jan 18, 2018 12 50 pm.
You have raised an excellent point. You are right that there are many posts lying vacant in premier Indian Universities/Institutes. Applicants think that this means that these is an "acute shortage" of applicants. However, posts not getting filled does not necessary mean shortage. This may be true in some areas like Computer Science, but in general the departments receive applications from a large number of qualified applicants (and hence the fierce competition). All the vacant faculty positions cannot be filled immediately, mainly because of logistics. Say a 100 brilliant applicants of Nobel caliber apply to IIX, they will be able to offer positions at a time only to a few, because the faculty will need office and lab space, startup, residence quarters etc, which are non-existent at this point. The institutes/Universities need major funding to be able to expand their infrastructure hire at a fast rate and fill up the vacancy.
- HS
https://thewire.in/60577/understanding-faculty-shortages-at-indias-universities/
when will be the nit faculty interviews according to the new recruitment rules? i have applied to 16 nits and waiting to hear for such a long time...
How do IITs inform you if your are shortlisted? It is via email or by post?
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How do IITs inform you if your are shortlisted? It is via email or by post?
To the host and other faculties - how many first paper authors do you have?
Madras has 50 first author papers. Most cited - 105 times least cited 3 times.
SOURCE - Google Scholar
How are first author papers important for a faculty ? Host has 500 papers with 16000 citations. It is the second highest in India for chemical engineering
Only first author papers reflects the quality of a faculty. Rest is done by their students, so they should be given credit. Citations have no significance. For example, if some researcher is working great in some field and the rest or the world has no idea about it or very few people work in that field, then his work will hardly get citations.
As per above analysis Madras has h-index = 28, which is below average considering his continuous 31 years in active research without any key breakthrough. But he is still leading the race among Indian researchers.
Oh so students work independently and write papers without faculty ?
In any case why don't you count first author papers of every faculty in chemical engineering department in IISc and compare with the host ?
For comparison another prominent fellow from IISc - A.K Sood has 26 first author publications and h-index = 17, 41 years in active research.
How is the host having 31 years of research experience ?? Doing btech is also research ??
Compare all first author papers of all faculty in chemical engineering faculty of IISc and then you can comment whether he is mediocrity or not.
I am counting years from his first citation year (1997-2018). I mentioned already his performance is mediocre but he is still leading the race among other faculties. Truth is, rest of the faculty is useless.
Oh I see. A person who does not know how to subtract and thinks 2018-1997 is 31 comments on medicority
Sorry 21. Still poor though. He first published in 1993. Whats more shocking is that present faculties/search committee wants new applicants to have large number of publications and few Nature and Science papers which they havent been able to publish in their entire lifetime.
Sood is fellow of royal society and president of insa. You call him medicore. Enough said.
You think only first author paper count and don't understand what is the difference between first author and corresponding author. The former counts for students and latter for faculty.
In chemical engineering in the world less than 50 faculty will have h index more than 60 overall or even by your criteria have an index of 28 for first author papers.
Take the top chemical engineering faculty in the world from institute like Purdue University etc. and look at their statistics
H-index and Citations doesnt count. They are just for self satisfaction. Good researchers produce few papers but with high quality,standard and breakthrough work.
Can someone tell me how many nature or science papers have been published based on work done in IISc in the last twenty years ?
Question - How many nature or science papers have been published based on work done in IISc in the last twenty years?
Answer - Zero
Really ? Zero ?? Can the host of this blog or someone else confirm ? I don't think this is correct.
After all the guy who replied doesn't know the difference between 31 and 21. Then later talks about h index of 28 etc and then says citations and h index all do not count when pointed out that Sood is a fellow of royal society.
Answer is Zero. Note that all the authors must be from IISc to be counted as IISc work. Collaborative work with other institutes and foreign universities is categorised as Fractional count. That is - percentage of authors from that institute and number of affiliated institutes. This however assumes that all the authors contributed equally which is not the case in real world.
Please take this discussion on citations and h index elsewhere, I am quite sure Giridhar's h index has no relevance to prospective faculty. For example, there is another thread on this blog on using citations to rank.
Dear Prof Sriram, How candidates with more than 3 years post PhD experience are treated in terms of salary. For instance, one with 5 years experience and the one with 3 years experience, will be offered same salary?
Thank you.
There must be a blind review of new faculty applications. Majority of the current faculties in IITs and IISc are biased, jealous and arrogant. Also there must be transparency in the system and each applicant must be informed timely about the progress and outcome. Their performance in research in last 20 years is shocking and dismal. Country is lagging way behind in science and innovation, and these people are responsible for it.SHAME
Not to mention, over the last few decades - a large number of coaching mandi students(often known as cattle class students) have entered in these institutions.
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No wants to listen to your ranting.
You call Prof. Sood, who has published two Science papers from IISc, and who is a FRS as mediocre. You call someone who has lots of publications and citations as mediocre. Then when asked whether the record of host is better than his colleagues in IISc or IIT, you claim the host is mediocre (though he seems to have lot of papers above 100 citations) but the rest are useless. You do not seem to understand that engineering faculty do not necessarily publish in Science or Nature. When asked to provide better examples from universities like Purdue, you claim all these parameters are junk.
You can not compare IISc to MIT or Caltech but only to mid level US universities but you do not want to do that. Instead you call everyone mediocre or just useless.
The host has recruited lots of faculty across IITs. No one has science or nature papers but very good record in terms of quality publications.
Go away with your ranting.
Truth is bitter, my friend.
@anon wondering about salaries, (using pre-revised numbers) candidate with 3 years experience will be offered 30000 + 8000, whereas the one with 5 years experience will be offered two increments over this i.e., 32280 + 8000. Depending on whether the experience was as faculty or post doc, the time to move to PB4 also will be different. This is what is done at IITM.
Dear Prof. Sriram,
I applied for the faculty recruitment at IIT Madras Winter 2017 recruitment. At the recruitment website, a link mentions that we can know the status, however, there is no "Shortlist Status" navigation button, after I log in.
Should I assume that my application is not shortlisted? Are the seminars/interviews already completed for the various departments for the Winter 2017 round?
If not, when will I know the shortlisting outcome?
Thanks,
Any news on IITD and K?
Re iitmsriram'c comment of December 30, 2017 on NPS: Could you please share the excel sheet? I suspect that the key is in whether the pension/NPS annuity is inflation-indexed or constant. Rs 50000 today may be worth a very small fraction of that amount 10 years from now, let alone 25. And what about those who are lucky or unlucky enough to survive beyond 85? At a time at which possibly costs will rise (assisted living, health-related costs not covered by insurance) the inflation effect will also be the maximum. I think the solution that will not break the bank is a inflation-indexed pension with a cap, i.e. you cannot get more than 50000 per month in today's money irrespective of last pay. Protects the non-Class I employees who need the pension more than us. Is also consistent with the governments position on one rank one pay :)
C
Any update on current faculty interviews by selection committee at IIT Goa ?
@C, there are so many variations in annuities - inflation indexed, guaranteed period, with lump sum payout etc etc. I chose the simplest model of fixed payout for a fixed period just to make the point that NPS can pay out a reasonable "pension". As I have pointed out in my original post, there are more parameters to be accounted for, and one of the biggest, I think, is switching to an actuarial model. As a point of reference, the current commutation factor for giving up 15 years of pension is 7.6 for faculty (retirement age 65). i.e., we can get 7.6 years pension as a lump sum at the time of retirement for giving up 15 years of pension. Given this, is it reasonable to estimate NPS annuity / pension as a constant payout for a constant 25 year period, isn't that too long a period? I have used "conservative" assumptions - NPS returns of 8% when actual is over 10% etc etc., along same lines. I will post a link to the google sheet soon, I need to upload my excel when I find some free time.
Thanks iitmsriram. There is a website where you can get an estimate for NPS https://cra-nsdl.com/CRAOnline/aspQuote.html For a 50 lakh NPS corpus invested in annuity for life to 60-yr old subscriber and spouse (matches with regular pension), the annuity amount is 30000 per month. I could not find a provision for inflation indexing for NPS. On the other hand even after commutation you get DA on the total amount (not just the reduced one). To me, the power of compounding inflation acting on my annuity is quite troubling. It is essentially the save early to take advantage of compound interest concept. Hence I think there should be some provision for indexing to inflation. Hence my proposal in the previous post. But I am sure the non-NPS folks will not like the idea of OROP :-) On a more serious note, all the folks making decisions today are non-NPS. And most do not realize the extent of the problem, for instance one (from an 'autonomous' organization) told me that he thought people like us were earning enough and so 70% of the 7pc salary was sufficient. I think this is true only if you have inflation indexed pension of close to a lakh per month in today's money and so little need to save for retirement. Look forward to your excel sheet. Appreciate your taking the time to respond.
C
I applied for IIT goa, havent heard anything back yet. Just thought Goa would be fun to work. Beach Beer and Babes. Who appoints such bogus selection committees???
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They hired recently in December - in electrical engg - the gentlemen has good CV - 2 papers and 35 citations.
All few faculties have PhD from IIT Bombay, Tells a good story how selection is done.
Please check IIT Goa website.
I have a question regarding NPS for IIT faculty. Is taking NPS compulsory? As I understand, you pay NPS amount every month and institute pays the same amount. Is there an option to not take NPS?
NewIIT Prof
If you did PhD in IIT Bombay few years back you can get job in IIT gandhinagar. Now you will get in IIT Goa. Just make sure that your faculty advisor is friends with selection committee members who are also from IIT Bombay. Actually two papers are too high. Two submitted papers are sufficient if above condition is met.
The problem is that people like above criticize everyone and then even good professors like the host who publish don't serve on the selection committee
I had phd interview at IIT B, 9 years back. They already know who they want to take. No point in applying. I hope one day storm will come and wash away all the filth. Good luck guys.
@C, your example does not match the standard government pension; government family pension (to surviving spouse, for example) is 60% of regular pension, your example uses 100%. Also, if pensioner expires before age 67, family pension is paid at "full" rate till the time when pensioner would have turned 67. Of course, with faculty retirement age at 65, this may not mean much. Incidentally, your example uses retirement age of 60, current faculty retirement age is 65, so annuity payout will be somewhat more than in your example. As of now, it appears none of the NPS annuity providers give indexed payout. LIC does have some option in this direction. In Jeevan Akshay VI, one of the ten annuity options provides 3% annual growth. Another option provides for 50% family pension to surviving spouse.
Anyways, here is link to my google sheet for nps
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1x85k-Q37zGSbdN_p5tPjLhMoZBvcmWCWoBDpku_6irg/edit?usp=sharing
What do you expect from these nasty IIT faculties? Court order directing CBI to probe IIT-M faculty recruitment set aside. Avoid these goons or punch them in the face.
can anyone share their experience of IIT Delhi faculty interview (Assistant Professor) experience at EE?
Did you received a call from iitd EE, recently?
It may be useful to read the reasoning in the court judgement that set aside CBI probe into IITM faculty recruitments.
"... the right to life under Article 21 includes the right of a person to live without being hounded by the Police or the CBI to find out whether he has committed any offence or is living as a law- abiding citizen. Therefore, it is clear that a decision to direct an inquiry by the CBI against a person can only be done if the High Court after considering the material on record comes to a conclusion that such material does disclose a prima facie case calling for an investigation by the CBI or any other similar agency, and the same cannot be done as a matter of routine or merely because a party makes some such allegations. In the instant case, we see that the High Court without coming to a definite conclusion that there is a prima facie case established to direct an inquiry has proceeded on the basis of 'ifs' and 'buts' and thought it appropriate that the inquiry should be made by the CBI. With respect, we think that this is not what is required by the law ..."
" ... Bearing the above Judgments in mind, considering the entire facts and circumstances of this case, this Court is of the considered view that this case does not warrant any enquiry by the CBI for the lapses committed by the appellant institute."
So, while ruling that there were mistakes made by IITM, the court also decided that CBI probe was not called for merely because someone made some allegations.
finally got a call from 2 dept. from iit d :P wish me luck. I hope all goes well
@iitmsriram
Dear Prof. Sriram,
I applied for the faculty recruitment at IIT Madras Winter 2017 recruitment. At the recruitment website, a link mentions that we can know the status, however, there is no "Shortlist Status" navigation button, after I log in.
Should I assume that my application is not shortlisted? Are the seminars/interviews already completed for the various departments for the Winter 2017 round?
If not, when will I know the shortlisting outcome?
Thanks,
ANon jan 29 which depts at iit d? I interviewed last year in september and never heard back so was wondering if it means i wasnt selected?
Thanks iitmsriram @24 Jan for the link to the spreadsheet. I agree my calculations were not accurate: the annuity for 50 cr corpus is 40K for a single person 65 years retirement age compared to 30K pm for 60 years, benefits continue for spouse scenario. Just wanted to bring out a rough estimate, and the fact that it is non-inflation indexed, which I think is an issue especially if one is hoping for a long life. Inflation of 10% would be quite a blow quite quickly. btw, re the salary (and hence NPS) increase estimate in the google sheet, there seems to have been a 7X hike in pay from the 5PC pay to the 7PC one, i.e. in a much shorter time than 30 years. I agree that this is unlikely to continue though, and of course this salary is also not adjusted for inflation so the number in the excel sheet is closer to the actual number to be considered than my naive estimate.
Very much appreciate your responses and sharing the excel sheet.
C
IIT Madras and other IITs can learn from NIT Tiruchy in the way the shortlisted applications are put up on the website; where there is a potential conflict with the present employer when application numbers are mentioned?
They wont put up name of the applicants or shortlisted applicants on their websites. IIT profs are bunch of clowns, they havnet achieved anything in their life and they feel ashamed and jealous when they get good applicants, which are way better than them in many aspects.
@anon commenting on NPS, mentioning 7X hike in salary between 5th and 7th pay commission, this represents a period of 20 years, not 30 years? How do you get 7X? It would not be correct to take specific points in pay scales and see how that changes, for example, one cannot take minimum salary of AP in 1996 and 2016 and calculate what is salary growth. That does not represent salary growth for an individual, it represent salary growth for a post. We need salary growth for an individual to work out retirement benefits as done in my spreadsheet. For in individual, we have to add in annual increments also and see what happens with everything together - include DA and some effect of pay commission. That is what I did to get around 12%, the figure mentioned in my post. Another way to do it is to take the annual inflation (DA) plus pay commission effect and add the annual 3% increment to it - so for last 10 years, we get something like 13%. It is likely that the raises will be lower in the future (it has been coming down in the last 30 years), so 10% is perhaps not a bad figure.
To me this appears to me significant: https://theprint.in/2018/02/01/budget-announces-rs-1-lakh-crore-funding-mechanism-for-iits-iims-nits/
Any senior administrators can comment?
Has anyone got positive answer for INSPIRE Faculty in Physics for the July 2017 application
@ankur, Dheeraj Sanghi posted about HEFA in December, issues he has raised will come to the fore now. At one level, this is all smoke and mirrors as the loans will be in the name of the IITs instead of the Government of India, so the government budget can show smaller borrowings. This is coming about because the government has discontinued "plan funds", which are all borrowings. One could argue that as the loans are for the purpose of funding IITs, they should appear in the name of IITs and not the government of India. But the new announcement on HEFA indicates principal payments will have to come from the Institutes, not clear how that will play out. After all, if an IIT has expenditure X and fees and other income Y, the government grant is X - Y only. IF Y is used to pay loans, the grants will have to go up, else the institute will go broke. I had some dealings on HEFA and the language used makes me very uncomfortable. If you go with how the conversation goes, it is like we take HEFA loans to build, say, a wedding hall (or anything else that will generate income; in this model, even a class room generates income as you could build a class room and take more fee paying students to populate it and hence generate income) and then the income generated can be used to pay off the loan and we get to use the hall (or class room) without the government having to borrow and allot plan funds for it. The main problem is that IITs are not in the business of building wedding halls, we use plan funds to buy research equipment for research, not to generate income. If there is a viable business opportunity for someone to borrow and procure equipment and use the equipment to offer services through which sufficient income can be earned to pay off the borrowing and make some more money, that is something that someone looking for a business opportunity will do; I am not sure IITs can or should play that game, but that is what the language of HEFA sounds to my ears.
@iitmsriram
This is great to hear. I hope IITs will take this in the right spirit and rise to greater glory.
In your calculation you are assuming that X-Y>0, i.e., expenditure is greater than income. Thus in the status quo, the institute will indeed go broke. What is now effectively needed is for Y to increase X so that the surplus can be used to repay a part of the loan. Which means we apply our brains more to generate surplus.
I don't think seeking RoI is exclusive to those looking for a business opportunity. Even individuals look for RoI when deploying funds. Why shouldn't institutions be prudent and strategic in the same way? I don't see why classrooms, auditoria, labs etc cannot be income generating. I don't know if the number 25% (of principal to repaid) is too high; that can be debated. But the principle is sound and logical.
@ankur, when X is about 10 times Y, it is difficult to not have X - Y > 0. For IITM, X is about 550 crores, includes about 35 crores for expenditure on lab equipment, Y is about 30 crores from fees (as fixed by MHRD and which IITs are not at liberty to change) plus another 30 crores from GATE / JEE. Numbers for all old IITs will be about this. A lot of the 550 crores is fixed - committed expense - about 200 crores as salaries / pension and related, about 75 crores for scholarships / fellowships (mainly PG fellowships), another 60 crores or so utilities. If we want RoI, IITs will have to shut down almost all the degree programs as they are all net expenditure items. Stopping classes and renting out all available space will make the operations more revenue oriented. Take it in the right spirit and rise to greater glory, really? I was looking for a smiley somewhere ...
Wait a minute. The proposal only talks of infrastructure funding through this mode; not all funding. So the X in your example is not right, because it also includes salaries, fellowships etc. What is the correct infrastructure funding number?
Besides, here is a basic question. Do IITs borrow/raise debt? Either from banks or other sources? If not, why not? If so, the HEFA borrowing shouldn't come as a shock.
https://theprint.in/2018/01/29/iits-could-have-to-sign-agreements-with-modi-govt-to-get-funds/
Why are we wasting money in IITs and other organisations like DRDO, when everyone knows they are incapable of producing any output. I would like to see these IITs profs and scientist to be punished under the act of treason.
Yes agree, not to mentions ....south indian joker professors prefer only south indian dosa applicants in faculty position.
@ankur, does it matter what the funding is for, funding is funding and shortfall in budget is a shortfall, no matter what caused it. I was very clear from the beginning that X is total expenditure and your comment also appears to be along that line. Now the the numbers don't add up, we should switch X to infrastructure expenditure? In any case, fee income is not reserved for IITs to do what they want with. IITs do not and cannot borrow from banks or other sources; as government entities they are bound to live within grants received from government or any other income they can generate as user fees etc. So, borrowing is done by the government and funding provided to IITs. I have mentioned this also, that HEFA transfers the borrowing to IITs instead of GoI. IITs are required to report all earnings (fees etc) as income Y and the grant given is then X - Y, so we are back to exactly what I stated in my first message.
http://www.theweek.in/news/biz-tech/budget-2018-brings-a-new-model-for-financing-research-infrastructure.html
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/services/education/iits-nits-give-the-thumbs-up-to-rise-model/articleshow/62761697.cms
Money wont bring any change brains do. Sadly IIT profs dont have any brains do to quality research. NOTHING WILL CHANGE.
Salaries and and Recurring expenditure will be continued to be funded by the government. The rest of the expenditure for building infrastructure can be obtained through loans and repaid. Sounds like a good proposition.
Build a hostel. Build a new classroom. Build a new dining hall. These can be built by procuring loans. The students pay for these facilities and this can be used for repaying the loans. Similar thing should apply to the non-recurring expenditure when you laboratory equipment or create other big laboratories or centers. Groups of staff members propose these because there is a demand from industrial and other research partners. Lending agency gives money. The industrial partner pays for using these facilities. There is also a plenty of consultancy fee raked in. These can be used to repay the loan.The infrastructure stays wit the institute and this can become a perennial source to carry out student research(pure academic research) and also consultancy work. This will in fact generate surplus and the Institutes will generate a corpus. Once this corpus build up enormously you can reduce the borrowings and even reject any grant from the government also. At this stage the institutes will also have money to pay the salaries of some eminent staff. Rest of the staff can get salaries from Chairs, Fellowships, etc. This is the self sustainable and self reliant model the government is looking for. Kudos to Modi and his team!
In the current scheme of things, government is giving a lot of money. It is being claimed that this money is used for generating infrastructure to carry out academic research (mostly involving students and their academic supervisor). But a lot of times these resources wont be used for that purpose. These resources are sometimes created instantly or over a period of time for the sake of some industrial agency who comes and uses this resource for a petty sum and the benefit from this usage gets pocketed only by the staff member apart from some overhead charges paid to the university. This way the government loses out a lot. It pays the money in the form of salary and also the fellowship to the researcher/student who could not do his academic research because he could not get to use the resource which was meant to be used by him in the first place. Also the industrial partner who used it wont share the knowledge gained from the usage of the resource to anybody. Added to this a lot of people who create such resources want to keep them idle if they cant use it because they don't want anybody else to use it. This is again wasted money and wasted opportunity.
Let X = infrastructure expenditure, Z = loan from HEFA and Y = already existing income available financing the infrastructure (could be 0) and W = income generated from the infrastructure built.
The proposal is viable provided:
X - (Y+W) -Z + 0.25Z <0 i.e., (Y+W) >X- 0.75Z. So, to be a safe proposition, the infrastructure built must generate income worth X - 0.75Z. If the institute gets a loan Z equal to X, the income worth 0.25% of the expenditure should be generated exclusively by the infrastructure. What is not logical about this?
What kind of infrastructure and research labs they are after only God knows. Apparently, I have been told very recently by IITB and an another two research institutes that they have no plans in expanding their research activity and they only want persons with specific research area. So they neither can employ nor can hire me. Now I have offer from Oxford and ETH Zurich. I am leaving.
*So they neither can employ nor can fund me.
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/economy/budget-2018-govt-reduces-outlay-for-iits-iim-funds-stay-flat-as-challenges-remain-2498729.html.
Seemes like the reduction in outlay reflects the new policy for infrastructure generation through borrowings. (20% reduction in outlay vis a vis 25% payback to the lending agency)
Ha ha....so much of money wasted on cattle class students and institutes. Instead build a temple or something
Here are GFR rules from 2017 which talk a lot about how Autonomous Bodies should become self sufficient
http://doe.gov.in/sites/default/files/GFR2017_0.pdf
http://www.livemint.com/Politics/DR0A4NOQgu1fZwdGzHwugO/Budget-2018-Govt-to-spend-Rs1-trillion-to-on-school-infrast.html
http://indianexpress.com/article/business/budget/union-budget-2018-arun-jaitley-education-loans-to-replace-infra-grants-to-iits-and-iims-5048413/
http://digitallearning.eletsonline.com/2018/02/budget-2018-new-funding-mechanism-for-infrastructural-development-in-higher-education-institute/
https://www.ndtv.com/education/union-budget-2018-education-reforms-reinforces-scheme-of-replacing-grants-by-loans-and-graded-autono-1807483
http://www.dailypioneer.com/city/teaching-community-disappointed-with-budget.html
https://kashmirmonitor.in/Details/142398/govt-acknowledges-its-nervousness
IITs will RISE to the occasion.
I think IIT M faculty are most bogus and biased. When will these tamilians learn, I mean just look at the them ....most corrupt politicians P chidambaram - Karunanidhi - A Raja - Kanimozhi - Jayalalita and the list goes on. These tamilains have destroyed our country. Send them to Srilanka for god's sake.
@Anon wait for Ranjikant and Kamal Hassan
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/services/education/more-indian-varsities-make-it-to-list-of-times-higher-education/articleshow/62811223.cms
This years THE Asian University ranking
2017 rank 2018 rank University No. of students students/staff International students Male/Female ratio
27 29 IISc 3,550 8.4 1% 21:79
42 44 IITB 9,870 17.9 1% 17:83
87 60 IITKGP 11,016 18 n/a 16:84
70 65 IITR 8,240 14.1 1% 16:84
63 81 IITK 6,472 15.2 1% 14:86
54 86 IITD 7,284 13.3 1% 20:80
131-140 100 Tezpur 3,611 13.8 n/a 40:60
62 103 IITM 9,033 14.9 n/a 19:81
101-110 112 IITG 5,419 13.4 1% 15:85
http://indianexpress.com/article/education/iit-madrass-rank-drops-drastically-bhu-enters-top-200-times-ranking-2018/
http://www.business-standard.com/article/current-affairs/bhu-jamia-millia-break-into-top-asian-universities-ranking-times-list-118020601806_1.html
"Though there were many new entrants this year, the performance of many top Indian institutions were disappointing. The Indian Institute of Technology (IIT)-Madras the saw the biggest decline on the top-200 list, dropping 41 places to 103. “This was mainly because of lack of citations,” the release said.
IIT-Madras didn’t reply to an email seeking the reasons behind the slide."
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/chinese-universities-lead-times-rankings-for-asia/news-story/0b72d932cadfc634ea682467768bdef2
"Mr Baty said that South Asian universities were struggling to maintain their standing.
“India is still the region’s leading higher education country ... but several of its institutions have declined,” he said."
Did anyone receive an interview call letter for IITM current recruitment? If yes, which department and are you as well able to see the short list status online?
Info sourced from HEFA's website
"We finance Term Loans for building world class infrastructure in India’s premier educational institutions like IIT, IIM, NIT, IISER and Central Universities in the following areas.
Construction of buildings or facilities therein, required for academic or research purposes, including the requirements for accommodating students/scholars/faculty/staff of the institution. Only the non-recurring portion shall be financed.
Setting up laboratories/high performance computing (HPC) facilities/libraries and equipping them, provided further, that the projects are accompanied by detailed plans for utilisation of such facilities. Only the non-recurring portion shall be financed.
Research projects that are sanctioned by Ministry of HRD or any other Ministry of Government of India provided further that the Company would meet only the cost of the non-recurring portion of the research project, and the cost of maintenance shall be borne by the institution from the resources generated through such project.
Setting up Centres of Excellence (CoE) sanctioned by the MHRD or other Ministries of Government of India, provided that only cost of the non-recurring portion of the coe project shall be financed.
Campus common infrastructure/facilities including student facility centres. Only the non-recurring portion shall be financed."
Can anyone very knowledgeable about HEFA tell what lines 4 and 5 above mean for current ongoing Research projects and COEs that are being established? Do the future grants for these ongoing projects/Centres get routed through HEFA instead of the concerned Ministry?
My experience with the entire IIT recruitment was as follows:
1. Lack of response despite sending several polite email reminders. In one specific case (IITD), I was directed by the HOD to liaise with the assigned faculty (the two of us cc'ed to the same email) to schedule a seminar date. But the 'faculty' decided not to respond to my emails and conveniently ignored them. Finally when I decided to include the HOD into my next email, I got the reply from the 'ignorant' or 'busy' superstar faculty within 5 min. And I had the time slot for the seminar arranged.
2. I travel from overseas on my own funds to give the seminar in one of the premier institutes of the country (Am myself an IIT undergad). On the day of the seminar (4 pm), I follow the 'faculty' to the seminar room only to see a lecture being held in that time slot. Thereafter, I go with the faculty to check the lecture hall booking only to notice that the room was never reserved. Next, the 'faculty', right in front of me, entered the booking details in the back date as if to show that the room was reserved for a while. This entry was then used as proof to abruptly have the lecture stopped and have the room vacated. The lecturer was obviously upset but had no choice since the room had always been booked for my 'seminar' and we had the proof.
3. Anyway, the fun continued and next I see myself giving the seminar to only one person in the room - the respected 'faculty' as no one else knew about this seminar. Three students from the lab were called for to provide me a bigger audience.
4. Rest went great...I had a good time taking a 14 h flight to give a one to one seminar at one of the premier institute that I aspired to contribute to.
5. I was a bit more optimistic, so wanted to enquire on the status of my application .But ofcourse, one can just wait for the reply till eternity....
All in all, to me this recruitment process has been made bogus by some people who enjoy being given the power to choose and decide other people's future. And the way some of the recent recruitments have been done is just a proof for it. I am almost tempted to ask for the basis of certain recruitments that have been made since I started following the 'quality hirings' more closely.
I read everywhere IIT's are under-served in terms of faculty/student ratio. There is a reason for it - and it is definitely not brain drain but it is more that the individuals in the system have the talent to repel some of the promising candidates who wish to come back to their alma mater.....
Might appear to some as just a long rant, but after facing so much of humiliation, I am sure noone would want to apply to such institutes ever again...definitely not me...
@ Anon, sharing his experience with IIT recruitment, I am sorry to hear your story. Lack of professionalism has been a deterrent for many promising young candidates to join IITs from abroad. I can at least say that IIT Madras's recruitment process is very clear and follows a definite timeline. Hopefully, other institutes will try to make the recruitment process conducive for future applicants.
Anon@ February 8, 2018 at 4:30 AM
I am sorry reading your experience but I am not surprised with your experience at IIT Delhi. I am a senior faculty in the USA and did my sabbatical at IIT Delhi a few years ago. I saw the worst and routinely. Almost nobody cares there!!!!
@ Anon from February 8, 2018 at 4:30 AM
What you have described is a scam. People do such things when they have a vested interest of pushing "one of their own".
Please write a formal email to the director copying MHRD and/or IIT board of governor chairman describing what happened. This will be a real contribution and put some thugs to justice. If this thug can backdate a hall booking so shamelessly to remove his colleague, it is possible he/she can fabricate data as well.
@ Anon, I have been trying in vain to get in touch with IITD for updates too. Also to people who comment one IIT is better over the other, please check previous greivances where people applying to the IITs following timeline have also complained of no response. Further, I never understand what is the point of online application if we still need to send in a print out 2 pages or the whole app hard copy before the deadline to the institute.
And noone updates anything on this online system anyway.
Also, it is annoying how they want reference letters even before shortlisting. Problem here is when we apply year after year hoping this year is going to be a lucky break, the referees are having to fill hundreds of references(its not like iam their only student). It will ease the burden on them if references are sought only after shortlisting.
DST itself doesnt reply to emails and didnt put up shortlisting for an add for a scientific attachee post they put up more than a year ago.
When you apply for a faculty position in any IIT. They have to first shortlist and invite you for the seminar. In case you self invite yourself it may or many not work in your favour. Many departments look for faculty in specific areas and even if your application is very good they might not shortlist you even if you have an IIT UG degree. In fact the faculty of the department has little say in selecting the candidate, it all depends on the selection commitee.
@ Anon 7.21 pm I am sure the people posting here did not self invite but posted to an advertisement call. Atleast for IIT Delhi and were invited to give a seminar by the committee or asked to present via skype. The committee were their own people in the skype interview and not all places have external committee. And all we ask is atleast inform of the outcome in a timely manner rather than disappear out of contact. I find it hilarious you think you can give a self invited seminar when one can barely get a response when applied and interviewed through proper channel.
@anon 7:21 am
I dont see how self invitation is even possible when in the first place, the normal prospective faculty applications are not even answered. One gets a reply if and only if they are being invited for a seminar.
Department faculty has the first say in hiring as they are allowed to sit in the seminar, ask ques, and interact with the applicant. If by selection commitee you are referring to knowing someone in the panel, or having your PhD bosses pulling some strings to get you hired then yes, your comments make sense. For someone with no such contact, they can forget about it! How it works is a perfect example of "Academic Nepotism". Some of the recent recruitments are just a joke. People have been hired as faculty in IITs and IISERs despite having a mediocre record, no publications in last few years etc simply because they were the ex PhDs of someone influential who has been capable of pulling strings together. There are some extremely surprising hirings being done and most of the hiring in such case is like a mafia!!! I wonder if RTI would help here.
I had the same horrible experience (IITs and IISER Pune). Whats more disappointing is that recent hired faculty are not even close to my academic achievements. Now I am keepin a close eye on them and who they are hiring. Lets unite together and file RTI or take actions against this otherwise just sit in your home and post comments here.
I am also writing a letter to NDTV Hindi for exposing this - on Prime Time
@anon wondering about why paper signed hard copy is required as part of application, this is little legal thing; without this, anyone can apply in the name of anyone else (at least as a prank), there is no preventing that online (unless we insist on verifiable digital signatures or some such). Not that one cannot submit a fake paper copy also, but at least, it will become clear that it is no longer a prank, it is forgery.
Incidentally, shortlisting has been completed for all departments at IITM, logging in will display a message that is different for those short listed and those not short listed. The interview schedule should be appearing at the portal shortly.
And, @anon with not-pleasant experience with IITD, pl. have some patience. To me it appears that you ended up liaising with an ass. There are many asses, but there are also good / fair people around, don't let one ass colour your experience or expectations. If you want to mail me privately about which department you are interested in, I can try to put you in touch with a non-ass. The clue that you are dealing with an ass should have come when there were no mail replies until you cc'd the HoD and then got an instant response. Ahh, hindsight.
@iitmsriram
For IITM, logging in I do not see any message nor the shortlist status, does that mean I am not shortlisted.
Thanks
https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/plan-to-re-hire-iit-teachers-207308
https://www.hindustantimes.com/education/to-fill-vacancies-govt-may-bring-policy-to-reappoint-retired-faculty-members-of-iits-nits/story-Dh2nC5gPm2Xgw3aXAJsL2K.html
@ prof sriram, its expensive to mail a letter from abroad and even if it is only 2 pages we spend lot of money sending in to every institute.Sometimes it weighs close to a kilo with multiple copy and paper reprint requests. Sometimes to make sure it reaches by the deadline which is barely few days past the online deadline we have to take the fastest method available. Even then it can take upto 10 days to reach.What I do now is to ask my parents to send it in for me as its faster and cheaper but not many people have relatives who understand what is expected of them to do so. When you shortlist candidates for interviews dont you know from in person interview its a sham or real and photo is requested on the application for this purpose i guess. I dont think a hard copy app proves a person is real in any case. A little google search is enough to track a person these days and atleast some univs would have a photo profile. You cant do it for all the applications(i understand it is a lot) but surely the few shortlisted for the interview can be vetted(if not possible by the admin outsource it).
@anon, IITM accepts scanned copy of signed sheet sent by email (at least when I was dean; I am sure current dean will also accept this), you can bring the hard copy at the time of interview. Yes, it will become clear at the time of interview, but this filters out before that.
I understand the IITM applications portal is not showing shortlisting status to candidates, I am trying to get that fixed.
@ prof sriram good to know atleast some people are considerate to issues faced by candidates outside of india. As lot of them seem to have an attitude of your problem not mine. And appreciate how active you are in this forum and provide pointers to applicants.
Absolutely overwhelmed to see that Prof. Sriram is trying to get that shortlisting status fixed. I always knew there are few good man in those IITs running the show. Respect. Sir!
http://www.newindianexpress.com/nation/2018/feb/11/to-address-faculty-shortage-at-iits-government-to-tweak-policy-to-re-hire-them-after-retirement-1771783.html
Some at IITs however felt that greater emphasis should be given at tapping young talents to get into academic careers at IITs.
“The idea of having most of the teachers in the late 60s at country’s premier technology institutions does not excite me as teaching requires certain energy and aptitude; the government should teaching more lucrative at entry level so that fresh PhDs from India and abroad are attracted (to teach at IITs),” said an assistant professor at IIT Mandi.
A parliamentary panel on HRD, in a report submitted in the House in November 2016, had said that among the older IITs, Bombay had a vacancy of 38.66 per cent.
IIT B told me they are already full cant take anymore. What the fck is going on there.
i think they want to improve ranking with this new policy. ratio of students to faculty
or there must be a new criteria coming up for world ranking : number of infirm geriatrics in the University
@ Prof. Sriram, IITM: "I understand the IITM applications portal is not showing shortlisting status to candidates, I am trying to get that fixed".
Those who are shortlisted, whether the notification is sent thro' email? So that we can know our shortlisting status by email? Thanks.
Whether NITs provide initial research Start-Up funding for faculties?
@anon wondering about IITM shortlisting, yes, shortlisted candidates are informed via email about the interview schedule.
Dear Prof. Sriram, some time back you had commented on NPS for post-2004 recruits. That was really useful for recruits like us (joined a research inst. in 2008). I would like to know how the pension compares for a 2003 (pre-NPS) vs. 2004 recruit assuming they had similar career progression. Thanks
-SD
@sanjeev das, pl. see above for a google sheet that I have created where you can plug your own numbers and see what the "equivalent" pension from NPS savings would be. Several caveats like NPS pension is non-indexed (constant pay out, so inflation will eat into its value) etc are also noted in some of the posts above. "Old" pension is 50% of last drawn pay and is indexed with DA and also pay commission enhancements. NPS based annuity can give something comparable.
Dear Friends,
As we are waiting for the official interview schedule from IITM for Winter 2017 recruitment, if any of you received an interview call letter, please mention the interview date and department in this blog (this will allow us to know the shortlist status indirectly).
I am thinking of starting a website, which could of use to faculty candidates at IITs/IISc, that records the last known interview date for all departments at that institute. This information can be entered by candidates and/or faculty anonymously.
Not sure what would be the point of anon's suggestion about maintaining a list of interview dates. In the case of IITM, there is a fixed recruitment calendar, there are two advertisements a year with offers going out in March and July (approx; July is fixed, March is a bit variable). Visiting faculty offers go out every month (no interviews for these).
Incidentally, the interview schedule is already up at facapp.iitm.ac.in, there is some shortlisting status display, but does not seem to be working reliably yet, still needs some more fixing.
Dear Prof.Sriram,
The website says that the Chemical engineering interviews are on 27th Feb. That would mean that the emails to the shortlisted candidates would have already gone through. Does it mean that those who haven't received the mails, yet are out of contention?
Dear Prof. Sriram,
Can you kindly list the application numbers of the shortlisted candidates for those departments whose interview dates are yet to be finalized? You do not have to reveal the names of the shortlisted candidates. Your software seems to be not serving you (and us) well w.r.t to displaying (or knowing) shortlisting status.
Thank you very much for updating the interview dates of some departments, the department I have applied to is not on the list of the department whose interview dates are finalized.
When I log in I do not see any message, does that mean I am not shortlisted?
Thanks again,
Balaji.
Prof. Sriram,
Is there a recourse for those who did not get shorlisted this time to IITM. Are there other avenues to try for IITM again?
IIT B new requirement policy (2018) states that experience in sambhog is necessary in order to get shortlisted for the interview. Please see their new website for further details. Good luck fellows.
The easy answer first, if you are not shortlisted this time, yes, you can apply again. But, you would have to ask the question, what would be different next time?
I have nothing to do with faculty recruitment at IITM, I have handed over charge as dean last March. If anyone wants more information about the current recruitment, they can email current dean or concerned HoD. I am just trying to provide whatever information I can get.
992 PhDs in race for steno, typist jobs
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/992-phds-in-race-for-steno-typist-jobs/articleshow/62924336.cms?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOIDesktop&from=mdr
Thank you very much for Prof. Sriram for getting us the information. We understand that the Dean of Administration has changed now. I guess all our doubts regarding shortlisting will come to rest in a week or so.
Balaji.
Is meat being served in IIT M ? or other IITs?
Does the Shortlist Status at the IITM Recruitment website show for all departments or only for those departments whose interview dates are announced?
Is there anyone here who got shortlisted for departments other than Ocean Engineering/Chemical Engineering/Chemistry/Computer Science/Mathematics?
Prof.Sriram,
Is it possible to get the reasons from IITM for not selecting an applicant? Can the Dean Admin. be approached for this? Thanks!
you can file RTI
Shortlisting status display is working reliably at IITM recruitment portal. I can see 5 department interview dates are there, but 9 departments advertised. I know AE did not shortlist anyone. I will try to find out about the other "missing" departments and post an update at the recruitment portal and here.
Thank you Prof. Sriram, it will be really helpful if you throw some light on the remaining departments.
https://blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/toi-edit-page/liberating-indias-best-colleges-hrd-minister-javadekar-has-just-announced-the-most-far-reaching-reforms-in-higher-education/
Long awaited! This is game changing!
Kulkarni, how many first author papers have you published yet in peer review journals?
Which paper describe you best work?
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This government is famous for noise and rhetoric. And we still have (and we are going to have) many Modis and Mallyas in every field.
For the IITM Seminar/Interview, how long does it takes to announce the final result?.
And is it possible to attend the interview via Skype (online) currently am staying in aboard.
If i got selected usually how long they give the extension for joining in the IITM.
@Anon at February 20, 2018 at 9:30 PM, In general, all IITs allow interview via Skype mode (for candidates staying abroad).
I do not know when exactly they will announce the results of the interview for Winter 2017 recruitment, however, an educated guess is two weeks from the last department interview (the full interview schedule from IITM is pending). Roughly speaking, you can expect the offer letters sometime in April 2018.
It is usual that candidates get three or four months to join the post after accepting the offer; however, the offer must be accepted within one month from the offer date. There is a possibility for more extension, that is more than three or four months, with director's approval.
Can I know which department you got shortlisted to?
For current round at IITM, results will officially come out on March 15. Of course, if you are friendly with the HoD or someone in the department, they can informally reveal the result.
Skype interviews are always done at IITM, not an issue. However, if you have never visited the department, the offer will be a 1 or 2 year contract offer and you will have to appear in an interview again to get regular (permanent) offer.
IITM gives one year time for joining and sometimes extends upto two years on case by case basis. However, this extension will work against you in terms of pay - the offer will have pay as of time of interview and cannot change if you delay the joining, so you will lose. This will eventually get adjusted, but you will lose temporarily. My question to delayers is, if you plan to join a year or so down the line, why apply now? IITM is advertising twice a year on a fixed calendar, why the hurry, why not wait for the ad that will not require you to delay?
Prof. Sriram, Do you have some information regarding the missing departments (in the interview schedule) for the current round of recruitment at IITM.
No one was shortlisted for Bio-Technology, Engineering Design, and Mechanical Engineering?
Thanks.
@anon, I am told that indeed BT, ED and ME have also not shortlisted anyone, hence no interview dates
Dear Prof Sriram,
Thanks for your detailed information regarding the IITM Post interview stuffs.
I would like to know some more information about the interview schedule
1. Does the candidate allowed to visit the department and the lab facility on the day of the interview?
2. How long does the interview will go? and the waiting time to be call for the interview
3. Does the interview finish before 6 pm? and what is the reporting time in the morning
4. The lunch on facility is available for the short-listed candidate or the candidate can manage himself?
5. Any tips for the interview preparation?
Anon Feb 21 2018 9.25 am
I was shortlisted for the department of CE
Hope the interview goes well.
Dear Prof. Sriram,
Thanks for the updates about the interview.
Of course, if you are friendly with the HoD or someone in the department, they can informally reveal the result.
How come new person can be friendly with HOD with just a first meeting?
Got to know from some friend that IIT Ropar is conducting seminars/ interviews. Applied in Physics, no response yet. Anyone has any info on this?
I had a friend interview for IIT ropar physics department recently. They have the 2 rounds if i understand correctly. The first one with a teaching and research presentation which happened sometime last week. And by end of next month they will be informing about those who made it to the second round
thanks for the response. How did it go?
Any idea about IIT Hyderabad Computer Science Faculty Interviews? Any interviews conducted recently?
Hello all,
In the IITM faculty apartment, does the faculty was allowed to stay along with their parents or only with his wife and Children.
Prof. Sriram can you please explain more about it
Thanks in advance
Of course you can stay along with your parents. What made you to ask this question? Just curious.
https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/health-aid-blow-to-retired-iit-teachers-211024
As one anon has responded, what makes you ask such a question (about parents staying with faculty member). How the the institute legislate who can stay with you?
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/kanpur/iit-kanpur-assistant-professor-alleges-harassment/articleshow/63063199.cms
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/education/news/pil-against-iit-indore-over-food-and-transportation/articleshow/63060265.cms
https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/iit-professor-sees-bias-in-pm-fellowship-211474
yypical Bureaucratese ..................
R. Subrahmanyam, special secretary in the human resource development ministry, disagreed with Sanghi. He said the CFTIs admit students through the JEE Main or Advanced, which are "admittedly the best way to choose talent".
He said that 160 students had applied for the PMRF within hours of the scheme's launch on Saturday. "People are free to hold their opinions," Subrahmanyam said.
He added that the existing PhD scholars at the IITs and the IISc too could apply for the PMRF if eligible.
Can anyone let me know if the computer science department at IITH Completed its interview cycle anytime recently (that is in the past 6 months?)
I have the same query about IITH regarding Civil & Mechanical Engg. department, would appreciate some response in case anyone knows anything about it.
The two Anon's above should write directly to the people concerned. If you can get friendly with them then you may get to know.
Can one get an NOC from the current institute for appearing in an interview at another place during the 1 year probation time? From what I am told by hod at my institute, it seems like noc isn't given during probation and my experience during this time won't count for the future job.
Also, does one need to give the 3 month notice before resigning during the probation. The offer letter doesn't say anything explicit about leaving during probation time. It says institute can terminate my service without notice but doesn't say anything about the reverse?
-new_faculty_at_iiser
Mechanical Engineering @ IITH conducted interviews almost a year ago. So next round should happen soon, hopefully.
Hello Peers,
Need your suggestions and opinions
Which offer is better joining an Old IIT as an Assitant Professor or joining a PSU company as a Research officer?
Salary wise both are same.
What other factors need to be considered
At IIT you will get lot of leaves
At the max 6-8 h/w of teaching
Please advise for Anon@ February 26, 2018 at 3:47 PM about NOC
Anonymous February 26, 2018 at 3:47 PM
If you are in probation period, you can resign any time without stating any reason. That is same for your institute also. So, you are a free bird. But it is better you inform verbally to HoD for your decision 2-3 weeks before and talk to him nicely to avoid future conflict.
In case you are regular faculty, 3 months notice period is required and needs to be processed through the proper channel.
What is the take-home salary for the Assistant Professor( PB3) at IITM, excluding the HRA?
@anon asking about take home salary, let us assume it is "regular" AP, meaning three years experience (old 8000 AGP). With the 7th pay commission revised pay structure, this is basic of 101500; add DA expected to be 7% as of 1.1.2018 (5% as of 1.7.2017) of 7105, transport allowance at 7200 + DA (taken at 7%) = 7704 giving total= 116309. IITM also gives telephone reimbursement (as a monthly allowance) at 750 and 20000 per month top up for all AP's below pay level 13A1 (old PB4), that makes the gross 137059.
Take home is a bit harder to calculate; IITM charges 180 per month for medical facilities and 887 per month for life cover, add 183 per month charged by the city as professional tax, employee NPS contribution at 10% of basic = 10150, that makes the "take home" before income tax as 125659. If you don't do any tax planning, above will result in an income tax of approximately 23300 per month (as per fiscal year 2017 - 18 rates), so take home will be approx 1.02 lakhs per month.
@iit.fac
Thanks a lot!
Any information about the NOC and work experience during probation being counted for new job?
Thanks for your detailed information Prof. Sriram
Hello prof sriram. Would like to ask few questions on new recruitment rules. So according to the new rules made by the government all the new entries without any experience after phd are placed as assistant professor with agp 6000 on contract. My question is since they are very new to the system and not able to meet the criteria of 20 grade points at the end of third year. Will they are fired from the institute or any extension period is given for them to score the required points.
Secondly according to 7 th pay how much pay does ocap at 6000 agp gets in hand.
Hello Prof,
Would like to ask a question on new recruitment rules. It is noted that a fresh PhD is hired as an assistant professor with AGP 6000 and placed on contract. After completion of the 3 yrs time period, if he is not able to score the required grade points (20) will he be fired from the institute or he will be given some extension period to score that points.
http://indianexpress.com/article/education/iits-set-to-get-25-per-cent-of-govt-loans-for-higher-education-institutes-5078222/
http://indianexpress.com/article/education/shift-from-grants-to-loans-for-infrastructure-has-iits-worried-matter-to-raised-during-meet-with-president-5086080/
The government, however, feels the concerns are misplaced. “Some of the old IITs generate an annual revenue of up to Rs 40 crore. Under RISE, they can borrow up to 10 times the amount they escrow. The government is committed to continue funding the running expenses of all institutes such as salaries. So there is no question of the loans hurting them financially,” said a source.
http://zeenews.india.com/hindi/india/iits-to-get-25000-crores-government-loan-under-rise-scheme-via-hefa/376560
हार्वर्ड और ऑक्सफोर्ड को टक्कर देगा IIT, IIM; 29500 करोड़ से होगा कायाकल्प
Old IITs have to repay all the principal amount to HEFA. IITM may be able to repay with its plush corpus and research and consultancy earnings
Anonymous March 5, 2018 at 6:08 PM.
All types of experience after Ph.D. (even at probation) are counted. NOC may be given by Dean Faculty. A forward from the HoD may be required depending on the internal rule of the institute.
At IITM did the results of the OE department (Assistant professor) declared?
usually at IITM how long do we need to wait for the results of the seminar/interview?
IITM has fixed faculty recruitment calendar; results of current round will (officially) come out on 15th March. Next ad will be coming out any time now, results of that will come out on 20/7.
Anyone got to know what is the status of faculty recruitment application at IIT-Tirupati?
https://newstrack.com/iit-kanpurs-senior-professors-found-guilty-exploiting-dalit-junior/
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report-iit-kanpur-s-4-senior-professors-found-guilty-of-harassing-a-dalit-colleague-2592587
Is there any pre employment health check up norms for assistant professor ?
And also how about after the selection what are the medical check up needed ?
FR10 of the Fundamental Rules (of FR / SR) applicable to Government of India service states in part, "... no person may be appointed to a post in government service without a medical certificate of health ...". The comments attached to FR10 state that this is done so as to ensure that "... only persons who are physically and mentally sound in health are admitted to government service". The specific rules then go on to prescribe minimum physical standards for various posts like minimum height (for males) for Indian Forest Service 163 cms, IPS 165 cms, Railway Engineering Service 152 cms etc etc, with relaxation allowed in the case of "candidates belonging to races such as Gorkhas, Garhwalis, Assamese, Nagaland Tribals etc". Most of these follow from a Government circular dating to 1954.
Along same lines, most IIX also require some generic health check up for incoming freshers. The check could range from a questionnaire and / or report to be submitted by the candidate at the time of joining to a broad check by a medical board (as done at IITM, for example). I don't believe anyone can be turned away on the basis of the medical check. In my experience, I have found that in about 5% of new employees, the check reveals a (till then) unknown (to the candidate) but correctable medical condition.
Does IIT Health Insurance cover child Vaccinations?
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